Bus rationlization due to CCL Stage 1 -2

last SG · 2010-03-15T21:12:14+00:00

Agree with tt... sv62 bunching up every evening... 15mins for a bus then 3 empty buses behind the 1st one... could tfr 1/2 buses to sv147 to downroute from P...

Acx1688 SG

So, rationlisation should still take place, like what happened to Services 81, 82, 106, 111, while some services should continue to retain. In the case of CCL, it is built in a way where around 50% of the line does not follow any road (quite high), but for stage 1 and 2, there is this stretch that follows (Serangoon - Paya Lebar) with bus service, and seriously speaking quite short. So, I guess that if possible, Service 70 will be one that is rationalised (cut to Serangoon/Tai Seng). If we look at the services rationalised, it's all in the manner where one side of the route has MRT service, the other without. Some services are likely to be rationalised such that they are linked to MRT stations instead. Could 158 probably loop in to Stadium?

There exists a strong demand from sv70 from shenton way to guillemard area all the way to Upp paya lebar as i mentioned earlier for commuters to alight at their bus stop.
sv158 looping at stadium will cause chaos to the already tight schedule provided SBST wants to increase its fleet size...
Do note thet Dunman High students are a priority when it comes to sv158's route/schedule/capacity so cutting sv158 to detour to stadium is unlikely

SBS7382C SG

not to forget 158 is the only service that enters tj rhu area....

Acx1688 SG

not to forget 158 is the only service that enters tj rhu area....

sv158 can actuali can cut into Nat Stadium via the link bridge but that would only increase run time...

SMB32T SG

If this is the case I also feel the same for service 24 too. It duplicates service 22 from AMK to MacPherson (except for the Serangoon MRT part) and also parallel along the CCL and EWL lines. At most service 24 might cutback to Bedok (becoming the former service 34 route).

Whereas service 22 will remain its route as where it is.

^tamago^ SG

Actually, packing passengers from the duplicating sector onto sv 24 and cutback sv 22, we might end up having to put extra buses on sv 24 and have to run a 24A since the portion before paya lebar station and after will be very loopsided.

Operation//Overkill SG

Too early to make assumptions larhs.

SBS8533C SG

Service 147 was spared from rationalisation from all other services, becoming the only service left to ply the NEL route. This is to allow choices fro commuters, as good public transport systems should allow commuters to have choices. It also serves as a service to bring people from the stations to segments of the line where there is no station. To take note: Bendemeer Road, Jalan Besar and Bencoolen street are not exactly on the NEL.

There was once several Potong Pasir Residents had complain about 147 and had suggested 147 to loop at Potong Pasir instead. The complains were due to the abolishment of direct links from Potong Pasir to the city, with the closure of Potong Pasir Ter and the amendment of 147 to Hougang Ctrl. That was in March 1992.

The only way to get into town is taking 142 to a nearby bus stop along Upp Serangoon Rd and take another service like 82, 133, 147 that goes to the town areas. Potong Pasir residents were left out when there is only service 142 serving between Toa Payoh & Potong Psair. To them, it was the hassle and a source of inconvenience that residents had to spend on bus fares and increase travelling time from Potong Pasir to town via 2 bus services.

SBS7485P SG

thats whr cutting of long haul fits in.

SBS7382C SG

thats whr cutting of long haul fits in.

care to explain?

we can see wads gona happen tmr when the ccl opens...

SBS7322B SG

I actually think the system in Potong Pasir is considered quite good already. Since I take 147+142 to school everyday, it's pretty efficient nowadays.

transportspartan SG

Circle Line (CCL) has opened today. This is the perfect moment to guess which bus services will be rationalised before SBS Transit or SMRT Buses does so.

All bus fans, please guess which bus services will be rationalised.

For me:

70 - Yio Chu Kang to Serangoon Station (Loop) [unless demand stipulates like 147]

11 - Withdrawn [unless demand stipulates]

105090 SG

147 was spared because of ""political"" intervention, not because NEL dont serve Jln Bear and Bendemeer. 107 and 133 were also similar cases. goodwill services. To tell people that yes, our dear grassroots commitee does listen to residents needs. sometimes 147 frequencies can be compared to 182 or 103M.. no such thing as 5 bus bunching along HG ave 8 anymore

CCL also calls at a large part of Aljunied GRC.. if they chop many services, next GE, this will be a hot topic

I'm a regular of 70. yes, pity that high chance it will go, but I'm expecting it... anyway, 70 takes 45mins to reach suntec from seletar, and irts famous 18min frequencies... only bonus its its empty seats when i board or alight.. the travelling time is wayyyy too long.

jayh272416 SG

I dont think 107 duplicates with the MRT that much does it......

In 2003 when it was a Serangoon - Shenton Way service iirc it was only Serangoon to Potong Pasir... I dont think those 3 stations warrant a withdrawal?

^tamago^ SG

so in order not to affect too many pax, aside from cutting servcies with a case of outright duplication, a good way is to maintain the bus connections but at a reduced frequencies?

SBS8533C SG

I actually think the system in Potong Pasir is considered quite good already. Since I take 147+142 to school everyday, it's pretty efficient nowadays.

Well, if you look back, majority of the Potong Pasir residents in fact, even signed a petition to the abolishment of 147 to Potong Pasir, until a point that the complain was sent to the Potong Pasir MP over the unhappiness of a direct linkage to the city from Potong Pasir.

Before that, it was convenient tool. But its just that Potong Pasir residents will have to take 142 to Toa Payoh Int and transfer the MRT, besides taking 142 to Upp Serangoon Rd and transfer another bus to the city (as what I've mentioned earlier on). It was proven an inconvenience.

That was when 147, to them, the Potong pasir Residents is a big controversy, just like the withdrawal of 216, which leads NUS students stranded and had to take 95 or 96.

105090 SG

so in order not to affect too many pax, aside from cutting servcies with a case of outright duplication, a good way is to maintain the bus connections but at a reduced frequencies?

yup! thats an excellent way..

anyway look at 147... a good example.. its at reduced frequency obviously..many people choose to wait for it and squeeze into crowded buses... although most peopl are taking train back..

anyway for CCL, most stations has 2-directional roads serving it... unlike NEL Potong Pasir - Dhoby Gaut where it only calls at North-bound roads.

still, over sometimes, commuters travelling patterns should be observed if they are switching to MRT or remain on buses

bus555 SG

Service 93?

105090 SG

93 need to wait till stage 3 or 4 open first..
for now, 70 is duplicating the most.. only guillemard road isnt parallell-ed

bus555 SG

93 need to wait till stage 3 or 4 open first..
for now, 70 is duplicating the most.. only guillemard road isnt parallell-ed

lol but does CCL goes to YCK rd area

sinicker SG

lol but does CCL goes to YCK rd area

rationalising doesnt always mean terminating the service wholly.....

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