Bus rationlization due to CCL Stage 1 -2

last SG · 2010-03-15T21:12:14+00:00

Agree with tt... sv62 bunching up every evening... 15mins for a bus then 3 empty buses behind the 1st one... could tfr 1/2 buses to sv147 to downroute from P...

jayh272416 SG

rationalising doesnt always mean terminating the service wholly.....

even then 85 was terminated wholly even though the whole southern sector wasnt duplicated with the MRT iirc.

SBS7322B SG

Well, if you look back, majority of the Potong Pasir residents in fact, even signed a petition to the abolishment of 147 to Potong Pasir, until a point that the complain was sent to the Potong Pasir MP over the unhappiness of a direct linkage to the city from Potong Pasir.

Before that, it was convenient tool. But its just that Potong Pasir residents will have to take 142 to Toa Payoh Int and transfer the MRT, besides taking 142 to Upp Serangoon Rd and transfer another bus to the city (as what I've mentioned earlier on). It was proven an inconvenience.

That was when 147, to them, the Potong pasir Residents is a big controversy, just like the withdrawal of 216, which leads NUS students stranded and had to take 95 or 96.

However 147 had to be extended to Hougang and serves the Hougang corridors and Yio Chu Kang Rd.

sbst275 SG

oh yes

Today's ZB reported tat PL bus svs are still as packed as ever.

sbst275 SG

think abt it.

There isn't enough buses to go around to serve e NE corridor thks to it w/o MRT and it's growing. If 147 had continued to end at Potong Pasir, SBS would face resource squeeze.

As for today, it might ended up withdrawn thks to NEL.

SBS8533C SG

think abt it.

There isn't enough buses to go around to serve e NE corridor thks to it w/o MRT and it's growing. If 147 had continued to end at Potong Pasir, SBS would face resource squeeze.

As for today, it might ended up withdrawn thks to NEL.

Yes at that time if 147 still continues to loop at Potong Pasir after its amendment to Hougang Ctrl, the travelling time to the CBD from Hougang Ctrl would be longer. Thats how 142 was made to increase the frequency of buses to connect to the Upp Seerangoon Rd and the Toa Payoh MRT.

Same as 82 and 83. With the amendment of 82 to serve Hougang New Town, there was also a public outcry for those who live at the stretch of Upp Serangoon Rd. Those affected passengers would take 327 to Hougang (South) and transfer another bus to the city or either take 84, 136 or 153 from Upper Serangoon Rd. As for 83, the route was withdrawn with 147 covering parts of the 83 route.

Although the strength of public outcry had reached the level of inconvenience, TransitLink has already point out the problems.

sbst275 SG

To think of it, most dwelling units are more biased to Hougang Ave 8 tat side.

iveco SG

Svc 70 should remain as CCL rail-replacement bus. Others I'm not so sure.

iveco SG

Actually, that happened because of CST's increased popularity in PPS and LTK's shock win in HGN in 1991 GE. A lot of these happened due to politics.

ngyk SG

I wonder if SMRT bus 857 will be affected a not??

sbst275 SG

Svc 70 should remain as CCL rail-replacement bus. Others I'm not so sure.

There's no direct bus link to Shenton Way tat CCL could provide.

iveco SG

then interesting why 22 was allowed to duplicate 24 all the way between ang mo kio and ubi...

24 dun ply SGN centre.

sbst275 SG

Actually, that happened because of CST's increased popularity in PPS and LTK's shock win in HGN in 1991 GE. A lot of these happened due to politics.

if it has to do w/ politics then it's sad because if they dun change bus svs drastically during the new town boom in 1980s and 1990s, SBS wun even be able to cope.

iveco SG

I forsee central planning of bus routes would be like Tokyo style where they make bus routes short like feeders serving commuters nearby to the nearest stations with longhaul routes like Service 14 or 30 non existant in the future

Yeah, it was their bird brains that created the present route 14 seventeen years ago when they merged it with 92 (CLE-PLAB). The only good thing was having more bus models passing my street. It was then that I decided to throw full support for BNDEP as they had majority CRB fleet and route 14 had 9 perm ones.

Anyway, SBS(T) learnt from their mistakes, and there is no more service integration to happen (eg 97 + 130, 7 + 18 etc). If 14 goes, what about 51?

iveco SG

if it has to do w/ politics then it's sad because if they dun change bus svs drastically during the new town boom in 1980s and 1990s, SBS wun even be able to cope.

Later on HGN Ave 7 area had 87. It was the first trunk route to ply that stretch of road in ages.

sbst275 SG

Anyway, SBS(T) learnt from their mistakes, and there is no more service integration to happen (eg 97 + 130, 7 + 18 etc). If 14 goes, what about 51?

Back then they wanted to reduce buses plying on the CBD. I believe as anyone w/ sound mind would understand why optimise buses plying CBD.

14 could serve ppl to East Coast/ Upp East Coast from Orchard. But issue is back then where are u going to find a terminating point for the bus?

iveco SG

best is to merge 11 and 175.

11 & 62 merge better. Current 62 is like route to nowhere with its looping point when every other route ends @ Geylang Fringe.

sbst275 SG

Later on HGN Ave 7 area had 87. It was the first trunk route to ply that stretch of road in ages.

Thks to Sengkang

sbst275 SG

11 & 62 merge better. Current 62 is like route to nowhere with its looping point when every other route ends @ Geylang Fringe.

doesn't it makes a u-turn at Geylang Lor 1?

iveco SG

Agreed. Tokyo's subway coverage is unparalleled. With the Fukutoshin Line, every road inside the "Yamanote Ring" that can be dug is dug for subway.

But the investment on subway is worth it for them because of the immense flow of passengers within and also into and out of Tokyo everyday. We can never reach the kind of coverage required given our population size without paying too much and underutilizing them, so it might still be more economical to have buses plying like they are now, and not as feeders from major stations like Tokyo has.

Singapore's problem with subway is that the ground is unstable for large-scale tunnelling. Don't forget the Nicoll Hwy collapse and the sinking of Hock Kee House and SGN estate ground movements.

iveco SG

doesn't it makes a u-turn at Geylang Lor 1?

But 175 ends @ Geylang Fringe, as well as several SMB routes.

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