Nissan R-35

last SG · 2008-01-25T23:50:59+00:00

Saw a black one on Orchard on sunday. Apparently there's already a few on the roads here

Ferrari_RoXz SG

I would rather they hold on to their current Cefiro than to downgrade to a Mit Lancer. Cefiro is far bigger than any Lancers. And more importantly, it meets all the requirements except the last 1.

But i don't think price would be the issue here as they want to get cars that are easily above 150k.

Shanghai_Grand SG

The cefiro isnt fast. My father could go only up to about 140+ on the NS highway near JB and he heard some damn rumbling sound from the tires.

Deduced it to be speed limiter and he was really abit upset. LOL.

Ferrari_RoXz SG

I think we are not getting into the root of the problem.

Let me as the all important question.

What EXACTLY does your father not like about his Cefiro?
It seemed to me that in your first post, he claimed that the cefiro is too small.

To have a solution, you need a problem. So what's the problem with the Cefiro. After knowing the problem then can we advise you accordingly.

Shanghai_Grand SG

He claims accleration speed+Pickup is slow, considering its a V6

The car is quite jerky and plus limited top speed.

Handling is not nimble enough

Tires often loose grip easily when turning

thats what he complains.

spadeTwo SG

the gtr backseat no space to seat 3 ppl comfortable de
the new wrx is hatchback. backseats also should be quite cramp 1
and dont bullshiet with me that FC is high for MPVs.
cuz those 3 cars have even higher FC.
and looking at ur reputation in sgf.
it should be just another 'xiaoboi85' (those registered last time should understand)

if ur dad really so 'sport car enthusiast'
buy an m5.

Shanghai_Grand SG

If u say NPNT, okay , fine, ill post up the Cefiro tomorrow .

Rolling Eyes

I was referring to the 2007 Impreza Wrxsti, not the 2008 hatchback variant.

We'll see and decide when the GT-R is brought into Singapore, probably a test drive would suffice for the three cars.

muwrx SG

to be honest, since your dad can afford a new ride such as evo x and gtr, the best solution is to buy a new coupe as a second car instead of keeping moaning over your cefiro.

after all, i am sure whichever new ride he may choose, he will definitely find the thrill fade after a while.

it's human nature to feel less excited when one gets used to something new.

btw, if your dad does decide to choose gtr, do invite some of us for viewing as many of us are dying to sit in the car!

good luck!

Shanghai_Grand SG

He cant actually just dump the cefiro or trade in, the market deprication value is too great.. he has to wait for the right time ba.

ceecookie SG

Dont be so mean lah..last time i also post question abt buying which cars and i was not flamed...

krakenn111 SG

you want it to be a family car, remove evo x and subaru wrx sti from that list. sure they are fast, but they are super uncomfortable to sit in. they are cars for street racing, not for your family (including your children) to take a joyride in. i once sat in my friend's evo and i come out got headache already. your baby after one trip probably will start crying Laughing

get a mercedes c280 or smth like that, its fast and comfortable

Ferrari_RoXz SG

Ok, i deduce that he does not need space as you have mentioned in your first post. If he does not need space. GT-R would be the best of the lot. Big cars and good handling doesn't often come together. A GT-R has 2 doors. How would your dad fit the whole family of 5 through 2 doors? It's possible yes. But I'm sure you guys would not like squeezing into a confined space for a road trip to M'sia. I would rather take a coach there instead!

If he needs a good compromise between power+sporty handling and space. EVO X would be better. You could also consider the Subaru Legacy. It's more spacious than the Evo but a little down on power. Nonetheless, the Legacy is a powerful car.

But if he needs to fit all 5 of you in comfortably. I'd suggest he get a MPV or a large sedan. Choices you could consider -

MPV: Honda Oddesy, Toyota Estima/ Previa, Toyota Alphard (it's huge).

But it seems that your dad having a war against MPVs Very Happy So, here's a list of Large Sedan cars (which aren't MPVs) and have a reasonable power to weight ratio.

Large Sedan with reasonably powerful engines: Honda Accord, Lexus GS300, Toyota Camry, BMW 5 series, Mercedes E class, Audi A6. There could be more that i haven't thought of. As you can see, there ain't many Japanese cars to choose from. Europeans generally produce more large cars. I personaly like the Lexus GS300. Spacious yet sporty.

Get a sports coupe if he needs a 2nd car. Maybe GT-R for Japs and M5/6 for the Europeans. C63 AMG would be very nice!

I hope this list helps as it's really hard to understand what your father wants in a car.

Take note: A fast, nimble handling car does not come with much space. Make a compromise between space or speed/ power.

Now, choose: Speed or Space?

Shanghai_Grand SG

Hmm..

He might consider the GT-R and the X..

Right now, the discussion is still going on strong, but the GT-R seems to have a large majority of the votes.

(my bro, me , my 2nd cousin voted for the GT-R, while my mum voted for the Evo X.My father voted for the Wrx ba...)

Phaze SG

haha... yes i vote for an M5 as well.

The car selection doesn't make sense at all. a 350Z is a 2 seater. Even the most cursory research will reveal that. And an Accord? You might as well just stick to the Cefiro.

The claimed fuel consumption of an Evo X is 9.9km/L. But if you like to stomp on the accelerator and open up the turbos, you'll be lucky to get 5km/L.

Highly suspect the guy is just trying to show off. Wink

Shanghai_Grand SG

I just only asking for my father..

I am assuring that my father does intend to use the money raised from selling the Cefiro to partly finance the procurement of the new car..

silver fish SG

GOT FAMILY CAR TAT are abit lik SPORTS CAR handling and IS A MPV and is a JAP CAR plus it is comfortable ! all in 1. HONDA STREAM RSZ. Very Happy your father lik to rev right? tat RSZ can take it. buy the 2litre 1, equipped wif 17-inch aluminum wheels and a custom-tuned suspension to improved passenger comfort as well as a lower center of gravity for superior handling. somemore sure SAFE, because its included the most advanced Honda safety technologies, including IHCC2 (Intelligent Highway Cruise Control), which control vehicle speed and distance to the car ahead to reduce the burden on the driver, and CMBS2 (Collision Mitigation Brake System) + E-pretensioners2, which uses millimeter wave radar technology to detect the possibility of a collision and then help avoid or reduce the force of the collision. plus the increased energy efficiency of the i-VTEC variable valve timing control system is further enhanced by a 3-stage variable-length intake manifold on the newly developed 2.0-liter engine to deliver torquey performance at all engine speeds cum intelligent powertrains deliver strong acceleration and near-perfect linear response. and the plus point is it achieve excellent fuel economy of 14.8km/l. somemore the RSZ comes equipped with a paddle shifter with intelligent control which mean u can shift lik a mannual. Wats more is the RSZ with CVT also comes with a 7-speed manual-shift mode to make the most of the CVTs remarkable shifting freedom. and is sure to b cheaper than ur tat GTR. even your dad hate mpv, i don find anything to hate this RSZ. do some research pls then choose it wisely. rsz is a SPORTS FAMILY CAR. you wan sPORTS you wan SPACE and you wan POWER plus HANDLING, THERE IT IS. Evil or Very Mad

nyox SG

why would u wan a GTR as ur family car? the backseats are for midgets, u can't fit a fully grown adult at the back comfortably.

also are u aware the GTR is in the 300K range? for that price you can buy the S300L that is not only luxurious but can fit 5 adults very comfortably, definitely fits the criteria of a family car.

however since ur dad wants a Jap car and he wants power, i'd recommend the Lexus GS300. i drive it and i've also been a passenger in the car. it's a really good package altogether and at a good 100K at least cheaper than the GTR.

spadeTwo SG

he want power
cefiro also got v6 version okay !
Rolling Eyes
and with the amount of money hes gona fork out for a gtr...
he can buy a continental car which is spacious and powerful
even the chrysler 300c v6 is a better choice than smlj gtr if u want spacious and comfy.
and in sg. u buy gtr for wad.. its about ego boosting only right ?

LH83 SG

From this, you can actually see who REALLY REALLY wants the GTR... not his father imho...

casshern SG

GTR? sit 5 person? hahahahahah great joke for the start of the year

outlaw-2 SG

Seems that you have left out another potential sports saloon; Toyota Mark X. Link below is the specifications

http://www.mark-x.com/resourcepdf/Mark%20X%20Specifications.pdf

But of course, it only lacks in power in my terms... There is also the good old Galant VR-4 (The V6 twin-turbo variant) if you try to look at the used cars market.

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