CCL3 Bus Rationalisation Discussion Thread

sBs_boy SG

Mature mean EWL and NSL not NEL and CCL

You did not answer what i was trying to say..

Or rather..

You do not understand what i was saying in the first place.

I did not ask which of the current MRT lines are mature.

SBS n SMRT SG

You did not answer what i was trying to say..

Or rather..

You do not understand what i was saying in the first place.

I did not ask which of the current MRT lines are mature.

Just providing info

sinicker SG

Just providing info

den it would be better you dont quote his question.

SBS n SMRT SG

den it would be better you dont quote his question.

I will take note...thanks

I am new...

Junyang700 SG

Urmz...

Withdraw 75, 190, 700, 700A and 960?

Cos all can take trains =X

Hope this doesnt come true!

heatblast SG

i wonder what happens if 190 is wirhdrawn...

jayh272416 SG

I add on to my DTL stage 3

65
66 (basically this service is screwed for the whole line)

pagani zsnda SG

Hmm. 852 is prolly gonna b gone too. x(. Downtown line, circle line and NSL parallels the route from bukit timah onwards. It had better not go

tanjun SG

As fares become distance related, it may result to some direct services shortened or withdrawn according to an article mentioned in The Straits Times at 12th July 2008.

Quote from the article, "A revamp in the Transport system still under way could see more direct services being withdrawn."

SBS2695H SG

As fares become distance related, it may result to some direct services shortened or withdrawn according to an article mentioned in The Straits Times at 12th July 2008.

Quote from the article, "A revamp in the Transport system still under way could see more direct services being withdrawn."

In fact we need more direct/express services if the LTA really wants to encourage more people to take public transport. In fact all the Cityshopper services (except 580) can be converted to Express Service and operate full day, and those working at Orchard Road Can benefit.

pagani zsnda SG

Perhaps the bus companies here should take out the unpredictability in taking buses. That would solve many problems. Ultimately the objective is have a very dependable system - such that cars are absolutely not necesary at all.

tanjun SG

Strongly agree with you. I think costs of the cityshopper service is a major impediment to higher demand and utilisation of the cityshopper services. Instead of contemplating about scrapping more direct services, I will suggest of lowering the costs of cityshopper services to allow more seats to be filled up.

The idea of dollar/minute should be the same or just slightly higher for taking a direct cityshopper service or taking a feeder bus and making a transfer to the MRT.

sinicker SG

The idea of dollar/minute should be the same or just slightly higher for taking a direct cityshopper service or taking a feeder bus and making a transfer to the MRT.

cityshopper is a good effort but sadly, overpriced. well, at least this is what i feel. even though i wanted to try it, the BC put the terminating plate up when he was heading to town(spent 25mins at bus stop & 2 "terminating" 576s came). an ideal price would be $2.50. if their nightriders can operate at $2.50, i dont see why their cityshoppers cant. if need be, only have it on weekends then. but i must say the first & last few trips on weekdays do have a healthy load.

also, why is 578/581 so expensive at $3.60. i dont see why it is more expensive than the rest. it isnt that far too anyway. we all know how fare stages jump like crazy on express sectors.

in an effort to make premium services really "premium", they fail to see that demand would improve if prices were made to be lower. with more passengers paying a lower price, they may even make a handsome profit running their cityshopper services.

Scania SG

Disagree. NEL also sees high loading during peak hour. If they want people to convert to public transport, they need to minimise such peak hour squeeze into NEL trains.

They should have realised by now, the NEL rationalisation exercise of 2003 was much of a mistake. NEL's peak hour loads is definitely comparable to NSL's, if not more.

But I disagree with you, NSL has way higher loads than NEL, truth is, I can't board a Northbound train during PM peak at Yio Chu Kang (don't even think of Novena or Toa Payoh) but I can still board NEL (with a bit of squeezing) at Dhoby Ghaut during PM Peak. I must say that the NSL and EWL rationalisation, which saw old services like 3, 4, 8, 28, 104, 134, 140, 141, 146, 148, 163 (scaled back), 168 gone among a host of others (let those older bus fans say cos I dunno all) were greater in terms of impact than the NEL one.

Also do note that you can start getting seats by the time NEL reaches Kovan, or even Serangoon during PM peak, and for NSL during the same time, forget about it unless you kena a train which is behind a late one.

heatblast SG

actually, there is still along way 2 go before the MRT lines are ready. By the time these MRT lines are ready, many bus services will be introduced and withdrawn. Maybe LTA change plan 2 make more ppl take public transport?

SBS n SMRT SG

I only need to pay $1.00 only:))

SBS9888Y SG

66 (basically this service is screwed for the whole line)

no. 66 only plies pass macpherson station and botanic gardens station.

scaniaB7RLE SG

does all the future lines planned = lesser new bus bought ?

ftjj0298 SG

no. 66 only plies pass macpherson station and botanic gardens station.

NO! 66 plies the whole stretch of BT Rd (About 8 Stn) and MacPherson / Ubi / BRes (About 5 Stn) and the Rochor Area (About 2 Stn).

heatblast SG

i dun think so. in think if they got more future lines than more ppl will take public transport = taking more bus services from mrt stations = more buses

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