MRT Circle Line Phase 4 and 5 Announced!

last SG · 2003-12-15T19:00:35+00:00

OK, perhaps Sv. 147 could be cut, since Sv. 196 is a no-no.

disappear SG

What about from Orchard straight to Tiong Bahru Station, stopping at Great World City in between?

tranquilice SG

1. Tiong Bahru station has no space for an interchange.

2. Between Great World City and Outram Park, the route alignment is basically a straight line; while to Tiong Bahru, there will be a right turn.

SBS9818A SG

It is pointless to duplicate EWL for one station. Anyway, if it were to come to fruition, it would probably be a LRT line.

^tamago^ SG

it is also possible for viaducts to be constructed. but i was suggesting that there is impossibility of having a tunnel, if any, as near as Jurong West Street 63. but building subways save precious land in Singapore, and make it easier to articulate in the industrial estate.

i was at the site today and i realised that the MCP will have to be removed to extend the line. judging from the way NSL was extended from YSH and CCK ends, they dun seem to like to remove the end viaducts, probably for the purpose of holding trains there (i've seen such an incident at PSR before). but if they dun wan to remove the MCP they'll have to realign the whole end viaduct along Jurong West Street 63. But no tunnels there, i suppose.

kenmin SG

The proposal for the tunnels along St 63 came about because some people were suggesting that the area does not have enough space for the construction of viaducts.

If building viaduct is not a problem at all, then tunnels will not be necessary. It has already been announced that the extension will be elevated.

^tamago^ SG

i didn't read the announcement about the elevated part. anyway i was having the idea that subway could provide more manoeuverability in route of the line.

SBS9818A SG

If it is to be elevated the only logical way then is to build the viaduct over the MSCP or above St 63, which would involve realigning the tracks.

service_238 SG

Its not possible to build it over the MSCP.. The MSCP will have to go.. pls do your research before you make a firm statement. Mr. Green

^tamago^ SG

actually, there’s no space for the viaduct to go higher above the MSCP, assuming that it will be so.. i believe the viaduct will be realigned instead of having the MSCP torn down, as the viaduct will have to make a weird S-turn to move onto the divider of Jurong West St 63.. it is more logical to follow the alignment of the road right from Boon Lay station..

tranquilice SG

Yes, most probably a LRT line, I expect demand will not be high.

tranquilice SG

I expect the MSCP to go. I have also seen before trains parking at the end viaduct. As for the limited space outside the foodcourt (3rd bus stop from interchange), I guess the viaduct has to be aligned to the central divider.

tranquilice SG

There is no way for the viaduct to be build over (on top of) the MSCP, as the height of MSCP is higher than the end viaduct.

tranquilice SG

I think the end viaduct will stay, it is important that the trains still have some distances to stop in case they over-run the station.

service_238 SG

That explains the excess track at the ends of PSR BNL MRB PNG and CGA

SBS9818A SG

Aiya, I care so much for what? Doesn't affect my carpark lot what. Mr. Green

^tamago^ SG

HBF has 3 tracks (incl. an overrun tunnel) at its end.. as for MRB, it does not look like it has excess tracks to fill another train inside.. there is this point: does the end viaducts at BNL need to accomodate a whole train or jus to provide some excess track? if not, part of the viaduct can be realigned along Jurong West St 63.. i've only seen a whole train parked in the end viaduct at PSR, and i suppose tat's a rare case..

tranquilice SG

I'm curious how come you know there's 3 tracks beyond HarbourFront station.

The end viaducts beyond Boon Lay station need to accomodate a whole train, for unknown reasons. I have seen trains parked there at both Boon Lay and Pasir Ris.

^tamago^ SG

the SBST staff told me on the first day of operations (20/6/03). in fact, some even had the chance to go inside the overrun tunnels. but they usually dun allow cos they are afraid the train may get jammed inside then they have to evacuate passengers.

the train on reaching Platform B will turn right into overrun (middle) tunnel, then reverse back onto Platform A, if it ever goes beyond HBF.

SBS9818A SG

That's interesting. The overrun track has been used at least once before for trains to switch tracks instead of doing it the SMRT way.

tranquilice SG

Is the overrun tunnel like the one near Outram Park station?

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