Does God Exist?

last SG · 2012-06-14T12:37:20+00:00

1. I think humility should prevail when we have reached the limits of human reasoning and inquiry. We can wax eloquent about speculative things but it is sti...

BroInChrist SG

Trolling business must be very good that you need to set up your own forum to troll.

EXCEPT that there is no way you can justify calling me a troll. It's just your way of trying to get people to ignore the arguments against atheism. What are you so scared of anyway? Or are you just jealous?

Miyuki miingguii SG

BroInChrist SG

If u wan a fair debate, you've got to be more or less neutral and unbiased towards both sides. Judging from ur replies, u seemed to be either a Christian or a believer. For a fair debate, you've got to be unbiased, but simply feel that one side is more true than the other.

If in the beginning of time, god exist and created everything, then y do we find no evidences of dinosaurs worshipping god?

Firstly, there is no such thing as a neutral or unbiased person. You are not even one yourself to begin with, for crying out loud.

Secondly, what we should be examining are the arguments presented. Arguments and views may be biased but we still need to examine them on their own merits for validity and soundness.

Thirdly, why should dinosaurs worship God? Only humans are created in the image of God and can have fellowship with God.

winsomeea SG

It is absolutely impossible to expect the christians to be unbiased, it is like asking the muslims to eat pork. Christianity is a religion or faith as the christians called it which God is suppose to be number ONE and centre of their lives. God is the alpha and omega to them this is what the bible is teaching. Anything not of God is considered satanic.

Yes, I believe in the existence of God but God is a bias God, selectively having favours to whom he wants to help and love. I have seen how evil christians are so blessed at the same time they are evil to the innocent and the God keeps blessing them. IT IS CLAIMED THAT GOD HAS AGAPE LOVE, so untrue, IT IS ALL CRAP! If it is agape love why only help some and neglect the rest and worst allow he evil christians to give hell to the innocent. Bible is very contradicting and is overrated by christians. Don't forget he favours Israel, this has been written at least a few times in the bible. It is said he is a perfect god , a god that practises partiality is absolutely 100 percent not perfect. Bless the evil kind of God I don't respect.

Basically, you need to be willing to be brainwashed to become a christian. Thank goodness I have woken up no longer brainwashed. Thank you god for not delivering what you promise and all the evil christians' evil work.

They the christians are not neutral. In fact in the bible it is said they are not to judge but they judge. They are very fast to jump to conclusion to point fingers that it is you , you and you ...... blah blah blah. Thank goodness, I have overcome the shit of it the faith!!!!

White Dust SG

Just to be clear about one point, I'm not here for the fun of anything. If you do not intend to have a serious discussion, then really there's no point going on. If you are going to make a mockery out of this thread and forum then let's just end it here. Because I think it is disrespectful to the other person who take it seriously that you are just doing it for the fun of it. I mean, you can have fun discussing things in the sense that you have enjoyed it. But if means by having fun that you don't intend to invest any seriousness to it then it is meaningless.

I have fun in the sense of enjoying what I do and discuss. Everything in life is and can be really fun, if only it'd be given the chance to be. I'm certain you can tell from my replies that they have been serious and intellectually defensible thus far. I don't wish to call this ad hominem per se; but it seems to me, that you have a propensity of shooting down our discussion on emotional grounds by means of the claim that critics aren't serious about these discussions.

Not sure how to multi quote your previous reply but I'll try to squeeze what I can in here. Time is not an effect; time is a pre-requisite for cause and effect. Causality is necessarily temporal, which means it involves an a priori "before" and "after". The concept of before and after is absurd, not to mention self contradictory in the absence of time. Kalam works by an appeal to our cognitive faculties. We observe that "in this universe", everything that begins to exist has a cause. It is then said that therefore, the universe has a cause. But how are we to ascertain if causality exists "outside the universe" if all we've got are occurences of causality "in the universe"? This is the fallacy of composition which I'm referring to. I would also like to add that Kalam does not compel people from atheism, because of the plethora of "creators". One could just as well believe that a blue potato was the uncaused, changless and timeless creator without necessarily believing that said blue potato is a supernatural diety.

BroInChrist SG

1. It is impossible NOT to be biased. Show me a person with zero bias and I will show you a non-human.

2. You said you believe in the existence of God. OK, that means you are not an atheist. But if so, what kind of God do you believe in? What can you know about this God and what do you know about this God? Where you get your information about this God from?

3. There are professing Christians who soil the name of Christ and there are true Christians who live out the faith even though they continue to struggle with sin in their lives. That's part of life. Why point to so-called evil Christians to justify your rejection of Christianity? Why not look at the lives of exemplary Christians and believe? Biased aren't you?

4. Yes, God chose Israel. But if you have any knowledge of the Bible at all you would have noted that God judged Israel harshly too at times.

5. Yes, Christians need to be brainwashed. Paul tells us to be renewed in our minds. Either you are brainwashed by the Bible or you are brainwashed by worldly wisdom. You have opted for the latter.

6. You failed your Bible knowledge. The Bible did not say not to judge. Please note the proper context. It teaches that we should not judge maliciously and hypocritically. Believers are called to judge right from wrong, truth from error.

7. It seems that what you left was not Christianity, but a distortion of the faith. You never really entered the true faith judging by your distorted ideas about what Christianity is about.

BroInChrist SG

It wasn't on emotional grounds that I replied to your earlier. I am glad that you have clarified what you meant. I am not shooting you or anything. I just do not want this to be a waste of time. I respect your time and you respect mine. That's good. Better to state upfront expectations. I shall respond to your other paragraph later.

winsomeea SG

1. It is impossible NOT to be biased. Show me a person with zero bias and I will show you a non-human.

4. Yes, God chose Israel. But if you have any knowledge of the Bible at all you would have noted that God judged Israel harshly too at times.

5. Yes, Christians need to be brainwashed. Paul tells us to be renewed in our minds. Either you are brainwashed by the Bible or you are brainwashed by worldly wisdom. You have opted for the latter.

7. It seems that what you left was not Christianity, but a distortion of the faith. You never really entered the true faith judging by your distorted ideas about what Christianity is about.

YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT I SAID JUDGEMENTAL. DO YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY TO JUDGE ME? DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHIT AND EVIL CHRISTIANS HAVE DONE TO ME AND OTHERS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT CHURCH i ATTEND? DO YOU KNOW I HAVE BIBLE STUDY AT ALL?

Hey, at the rate you are going posting threads to challenge non believers and shoot them down don't help you to win souls for your god.

See, you do not know my faith in God to judge me but you have gone ahead to judge me and claim that it was not Christianity I practised. Damn it la, if you are so damn bloody self righteous and judgemental, stop stop evangelising, don't put your god to shame la. Self righteousness and judgemental are sins.

You are a nasty christian like those evil ones.

Aneslayer SG

God exist.... The original mystery, the alpha... or whatever attributes that implies the 1st cause. That is God.

winsomeea SG

You are one of the many christians who can never want to accept the evil of Christians because you are evil yourself.

No matter how many forums you set up also no use because you keep treating people nastily and show no God's love to non believers. The essence of Christianity is love but you don';t have, hahahahahahaha! You damn bloody christian, for allyou know you will not end up in heaven, hahahahahah.

Miyuki miingguii SG

winsomeea SG

God exist.... The original mystery, the alpha... or whatever attributes that implies the 1st cause. That is God.

This asshole cannot accept that there are evil christians around. He is so damn arrogant! It is said so many times in the bible the god does not like arrogance but he is practising arrogance.

Damn la broinchrist, pui~!

winsomeea SG

Guys, y bother wasting time trying to make this stupid Christian smarter by even 0.001%? I shall go and practice my witchcraft.

Stupid, right? This idiot wants a debate, but what he's doing is equals to preaching. Get ur words right before starting a thread.

This kind of asshole is very typical christian who cannot accept the negative side of their faith and christians. He is in to fight everyone who state what we know of christianity.

No matter how much he ppost here, no use la, generallly the christians are nasty to the core. Generally, christians are nasty in church, workplace, families and social setting. The nasty ones condemn people to hell when people refuse to accept their christianiy, yee yucks, so evil ! Where is the love the God so called ask them to practise????????????????

To be fair they are generally nasty but I do come across like one in a million there is a good one.

I am stating reality and he is nasty and angry to say that the christianity I left is not christianity, hahahahahahah, cannot accept reality, so pathetic. I hate attending church for the christians are so fake and nasty.

BroInChrist SG

Hey, at the rate you are going posting threads to challenge non believers and shoot them down don't help you to win souls for your god.

You are a nasty christian like those evil ones.

I don't presume to know your background but I can certainly form my judgement based on my experience with reading your postings. By my lights they do not reveal someone who is really informed about Christianity. What you rejected is hardly the God of the Bible. I have had bad things done to me by those whom have called me their dearest brother in Christ. But that's no reason to turn my back on God.

If you think my words are harsh on you, I say it is different strokes for different folks. If you come across nicely I assure you that I can be as gentle as a lamb and handle you with care. Perhaps you have not realised how judgemental you are in your replies.

Miyuki miingguii SG

Aneslayer SG

This asshole cannot accept that there are evil christians around. He is so damn arrogant! It is said so many times in the bible the god does not like arrogance but he is practising arrogance.

Damn la broinchrist, pui~!

If he has the stuff, dun blame him for being arrogant.... more data need to be collected. What you hate is the hyprocrisy....

winsomeea SG

1. It is impossible NOT to be biased. Show me a person with zero bias and I will show you a non-human.

4. Yes, God chose Israel. But if you have any knowledge of the Bible at all you would have noted that God judged Israel harshly too at times.

5. Yes, Christians need to be brainwashed. Paul tells us to be renewed in our minds. Either you are brainwashed by the Bible or you are brainwashed by worldly wisdom. You have opted for the latter.

7. It seems that what you left was not Christianity, but a distortion of the faith. You never really entered the true faith judging by your distorted ideas about what Christianity is about.

Read what BroInChrist accuse me of below . He said I fail in my bible knowledge. He is truly the one who fail his bible knowledge. Read below the verses from the bible that said do not judge.

βέτά SG

Miyuki miingguii SG

βέτά SG

Don't forget!

School holidays now.

All these si ginna who just read the bible thinking they know everything will come preach and troll in here.

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