You said this : and ironically, it is exactly these few
faiths which commit most of these killings, raping and
plundering over the past century.
You are saying that religion is the cause of most conflicts.
It's not entirely wrong but when atheists were at the helm, they
murdered more people. Their failed policies indirectly killed many
people by starvation and diseases. Have you not heard of Gulag, the
cultural revolution, the Khmer Rouge genocide and many many
more?
Did Hitler murdered only Jews? You have left out the Gypsies ,
the homosexuals and the mentally handicapped.
You must look at the action of the believers in it's context.
The Burmese are being oppressed by the military junta. The monks
are also victims. Did they engage in bloody confrontations or did
the military brutally crushed their peaceful demonstration for
freedom?
Atomic Bombs ended WW2 in Asia and it was not a religious war.
It had a happy ending. You got it mixed up. You should ask yourself
how many more Asian civilians would have been killed had the
Japanese won the war.
The fact is atheists killed or murdered many more people then
religious wars did.
The atheists don't believe in God. They play God.
You said this : and ironically, it is exactly these few
faiths which commit most of these killings, raping and
plundering over the past century.
You are saying that religion is the cause of most
conflicts. It's not entirely wrong but when atheists were at the
helm, they murdered more people. Their failed policies indirectly
killed many people by starvation and diseases. Have you not heard
of Gulag, the cultural revolution, the Khmer Rouge genocide and
many many more?
but these crimes can be commited by anyone, atheist or not. look
at Indonesia. i recall that their last anti-chinese riots were
"sanctioned" by the President himself(the 1997 riots) . the ears of
chinese were cut off and string together. Indonesia is a religious
nation.
in singapore and Malaysia, there's the ISA to detain any
political dissidents.
USA, there's the guantanamo bay detetion camp to detain anyone
suspected of terrorism, without trials. many of
the detainees have "disappeared".
to quote genocide, the balkans war, the Serbs were the ones who
commited genocides against the Muslim Croatians, under the order of
dictator Slobodan Miloservic, a Christian. (I'm not against
Christianity here, but they happen to be the few recent case of
religious intolerance, with exception to the rise of Islamic
terrorism over the past 5 yrs.)
and as for the examples you quoted, i notice that most are
communist countries.
and well, while Hitler was power hungry, competing for power
with the Church, i doubt that he had renounced his faith in
Christianity. Did anyone have any record that he had explicitly
said that he does not believe in Jesus Christ? no, i
don't think so. Mao and Stalin maybe, but not Hitler.
Did Hitler murdered only Jews? You have left out the
Gypsies , the homosexuals and the mentally
handicapped.
the above group of people are not classified as religious
groupings. alot of cultures around the world persecutes the
minorities. in the USA, blacks were still lynched on the streets 50
yrs ago.
in Christianity, slaves were still permitted until the time of
Abraham Lincoln. The captives of the Crusader wars were simply
substituted by innocent African villagers, transported to the rich
christian countries of Europe and North America. these people were
treated as commodities, and killing them was legal. how moralistic
was that. apparently, the barbaric practice of slavery was not
banned for some 1800 yrs after the birth of Christ. how could
anyone blatently ignore such abuses of human rights?
You must look at the action of the believers in it's
context. The Burmese are being oppressed by the military junta. The
monks are also victims. Did they engage in bloody confrontations or
did the military brutally crushed their peaceful demonstration for
freedom?
as i last recalled, Tsarist Russia and Britain did the same
thing to their protestors. Bloody Sunday, when the Tsar, the
head of the Eastern Orthodox Church, ordered his
cossack troops to open fire into the unarmed crowds who were asking
for reforms.
on Black Friday, the UK government, of whom the Queen is the
head of the Church of England, permitted the
sending in of british troops to open fire on the Irish
protestors.
and i shall not add on the list of popes who send their
followers to plunder the Holy Land. 12 times.
Atomic Bombs ended WW2 in Asia and it was not a
religious war. It had a happy ending. You got it mixed up. You
should ask yourself how many more Asian civilians would have been
killed had the Japanese won the war.
same with your point about the Gulags, the cultural revolution.
maybe i could use you point and say that, believers of faith kill
more people when they were at the helm... =-=
how does it feel to hear that?
The fact is atheists killed or murdered many more people
then religious wars did.
are you sure? name me any wars fought by atheists. religious
wars killed more people over the past 5000 yrs, den your so-called
atheist ever did. figure of 5000 yrs, based on the emergence of the
concept of religion, from the earliest known religion of the
Egyptians, where they wage wars against the non-suscribers of
Egyptian faith, the Libyans and the Nubians (modern day sudanese).
not to mention the Jews, in which the event is recorded in the
bible.
The atheists don't believe in God. They play
God.
again, i shall ask if you are sure. So far, i seem to see only
religious leaders put God's words into their mouth, proclaiming
this and that in the name of God. They are the ones who are playing
God.
if God (assuming that God exists), can speak freely to any Tom,
Dick and Harry, (Moses, Noah, Abraham were certainly not members of
any clergy), why does God "speaks" only to the clergy today? I do
not seem to recall any records from the priests of their time,
stating that they had divine inspirations with God. all of the
records seem to come forth from the commoners, instead of the
religious figures of their respective times.
