Book Of Genesis Qustions

last SG · 2007-01-30T12:41:50+00:00

the question is: why didnt adam and eve eat the serpent Answer: they werent chinese!!

sillyme SG

I don't think God has a problem of us having knowledge in the matters of science or how the physical world works.

I think that the knowledge of good and evil is different from scientific knowledge or alike

stupidissmart SG

Then why is more knowledge ever bad ? Why do u think it is bad to have a knowledge of good end evil ? Doesn't tat prevent u from committing evil unintentionally ?

Icemoon SG

Yes, maybe right or maybe wrong.

I did not jump to conclusion that it is right. I said there is a more logical way to look at Scripture. You disagree with the Christian explanation doesn't mean Scripture is now hopeless and wrong.

I did not read? Hello .. I invited the reader of my post to read (or re-read) Genesis again and ask questions. Obviously I have read right. Mr. Green

Pope Nicholas SG

Once you have the knowledge of commiting good and evil, u have the potential to commit such acts. Once Adam knew the knowledge of sins, he would be able to commit them as well. The humans created by God were his children and did not need to know what is right and wrong for there is only one law, and that is God. However Adam disobedience caused a rift and with the potent combination of rift and the potential to sin, we have been separated.

I will not say Adam descendants are being punished, But rather we are suffering from Adam's actions of gaining greater knowledge. He passed the knowledge and the potential to use such knowledge (to sin or to do good) to us. All of us have done both and it is the sin bit that prevents us from returning back to Eden.

Icemoon SG

Before the fruit .. no such knowledge.

so Adam did not sin before the fruit? As in even his disobedience wasn't a sin?

stupidissmart SG

Well then since it can be wrong, why do we have to force something tat doesn't make sense, right ? U can try to make it right but if in the end it is wrong despite efforts then do we still carry on ? It seems to be as futile as trying to make the story of snow white become a scientific journal

I think your idea of "knowledge of good and evil" is different from wat I think. If I do not have knowledge of good and evil doesn't mean I do not do evil. I may still create a lot of evil and sin but without caring and knowing it is wrong. Just like the snake is evil into making eve eat the fruit when it itself does not know wat is good end evil. When we know wat is good and evil, we try to prevent ourselves from committing evil and sin, (such as covering themselves with leaves when they thought being naked is "bad" ) tis in a way is good for "goodness". If u felt tat having knowledge of good and evil is bad, then why do god have tis knowledge

I will not say Adam descendants are being punished, But rather we are suffering from Adam's actions of gaining greater knowledge. He passed the knowledge and the potential to use such knowledge (to sin or to do good) to us. All of us have done both and it is the sin bit that prevents us from returning back to Eden.

Why call it "original sin" and not "original knowledge" then ?

sillyme SG

As I said earlier, it is bad when you cannot manage it properly.

I think we humans, as limited beings, do not have to capability of judging what is good and evil properly. No one can agree what real justice is. We get it right sometimes, but most of the time humankind has failed in bringing justice.

Whether we would commit evil unintentionally if Adam and Eve had not eaten from the tree, I do not know an answer. Perhaps before they ate from the tree, everything was good. There was nothing else they need to know except to abide in God. But this is just a guess from my side. Maybe the others have a better perspective.

stupidissmart SG

As I said earlier, it is bad when you cannot manage it properly.

Then wat we lack is more knowledge and not less knowledge

I think we humans, as limited beings, do not have to capability of judging what is good and evil properly. No one can agree what real justice is. We get it right sometimes, but most of the time humankind has failed in bringing justice.

Does tat means the fruit of knowledge of good and evil is faulty ? After eating it we still do not have an ida of wat is good and evil ?

Whether we would commit evil unintentionally if Adam and Eve had not eaten from the tree, I do not know an answer. Perhaps before they ate from the tree, everything was good. There was nothing else they need to know except to abide in God. But this is just a guess from my side. Maybe the others have a better perspective.

I think the snake, adam and eve have all committed evil unintentionally before they eat the fruit. And obviously tat is not good.

Pope Nicholas SG

Will reading St Aquinas 5 proof why God exist help in this thread?

sillyme SG

I believe that Genesis is allegorical.

Eating it is not a like taking potion, you suddenly get intelligence plus infinity. Eating from the tree is simply an act of man disobeying God, wanting to take control of his own life.

Yes we still have no idea what is good and evil, at least not completely.

stupidissmart SG

Eating it is not a like taking potion, you suddenly get intelligence plus infinity. Eating from the tree is simply an act of man disobeying God, wanting to take control of his own life.

Yes we still have no idea what is good and evil, at least not completely.

No one says u get to be super smart but at least u should know wat is good and evil. But tat doesn't happens. Then wat is the use of the fruit ? And wat is wrong with men taking control of his life ?

Icemoon SG

you are setting yourself against the Protestant fundamentalists? Mr. Green

Pope Nicholas SG

But sillyme is not a fundamentalist protestant rite?

sillyme SG

Me is Anglican Smile

I don't want to discredit what the early Christian pioneers had done. But I believe that the bible must be interpreted actively (and corporately) as more knowledge is revealed. I don't think Genesis can be taken literally completely.

sillyme SG

As I said, we are limited creatures. In our limited self, we cannot do it properly. We may know parts of it, but not completely.

LazerLordz SG

It helps if you read the Bible in a less literal fashion.

Chin Eng SG

this one not happening lah.... SIS always reads it in the literal fashion.
I have time and again said that Biblical reading has to take into consideration the linguistic nuances as well as cultural implication plus factor in the limitation of the English language...

stupidissmart SG

Maybe it will be helpful to provide insights into the error that was committed in reading “the fruit of knowledge of good and evil” as the fruit of knowledge of good and evil.

Icemoon SG

what are you talking about?

vince69 SG

Better still, it will be even more benefical if we can find the insights of what this "fruit of knowledge of good and evil" really is or represents, instead of what it is not. Confused

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