God commanded the use of icons?

last SG · 2006-07-05T20:42:42+00:00

The Protestant position makes more sense .. don't you think so? IMHO, the Catholics are the one without any "checks and balances". PS: But then I wouldn't...

vince69 SG

I know it was like this back then, one of the thing is that back then the literacy rate is very low, but what I am curious about is, Is this still the offical stand of the Roman Catholic Church on the subject that
1) Individuals are not to interpret the Bible on their own
2) Individuals are not to question the Church's teaching
Sad

SingaporeMacross SG

Originally posted by vince69:
Wow...
does this place reflect the offical views of the Roman Catholic Church?
Shocked

cause further down from this in the same page, almost all prostestant churches are considered/implicated in the list of heretics Sad

Err, that's why we excommunicated Luther, and burnt his predecessors.

If not burn people for fun meh...

vince69 SG

ok... thats history, right,
question is are the 2 "thou shall not" still enforced today? as in lay people is not allow to interpret the Bible and also cannot question the teaching of the Church.

Thanks for clarifications

* This is a serious question, and not a joke.

SingaporeMacross SG

If everybody has his own interpretation, there will be thousands of permutations of them. Which one is the correct interpretation then?

laoda99 SG

The protestants as heresy ones i am not surprised....but I am more against the verses quoted in support of symbols for Christ......the verses quoted are not relevant at all.....

vince69 SG

understand,

In other words, individual lay person is still allow to study the bible and draw their own independant conclusion, and that anyone who question the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church is consider an act of heresy.

thanks for the clarification.

vince69 SG

Laoda, according to the website, you had just committed an heresy, in that you question the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church.
Sad

laoda99 SG

unker vince,

I dun think so Cool

laoda99 SG

it's ok lar.....to them we are heretics.....but some of us also say they commit heresy mah Mr. Green

SingaporeMacross SG

yeah, more or less even. lol.

laoda99 SG

burn pple coz.....hungry??

dun forget the BBQ sauce ha Mr. Green

vince69 SG

the part that say,

A significant feature of this heresy is the attempt to pit the Church "against" the Bible, denying that the magisterium has any infallible authority to teach and interpret Scripture.

in other words, whatever the Church teaching and interpretation of the scripture is infallible (ie. cannot be questioned).

Sad

SingaporeMacross SG

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07256b.htm

laoda99 SG

yes....this is correct

but u said "individual lay person is still allow to study the bible and draw their own independant conclusion" I really doubt so.........

u are suppose to read the bible and understand what the church tells u from there...

laoda99 SG

sgmacross,

would u like to comment on some of the verses used in catholic answers with regards to icons.....are they relevant?

laoda99 SG

and dun forget....during the great schism....RC was ex-com by orthodox church also (RC also ex-com orthodox)

Mr. Green

ex-com sounds like a great game

vince69 SG

maybe allow, as long as your conclusion is, the Church is correct anything else is not permissible (according to what is being said).

laoda99 SG

I think what RC believe is:

u are suppose to read the bible and understand what the church tells u from there...and not inteprete urself....

SingaporeMacross SG

There is a game called X Com. Very old game.

The mutual anathemas have since been lifted.

laoda99 SG

i tot anathema= damned to eternity

can be lifted one meh?

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