For seekers and skeptics

last SG · 2005-08-30T16:04:44+00:00

I don't understand what you mean by "People only take note of parts which best serve their interests. ". I use the word "should"! "Should" not equal "is"! W...

jnwk SG

I don't deny some christians or outsiders like to quote verses to their advantages to sins or to do things that they think should be alright. We study the bible not to quote here and there but to try to practice it. The bible is the authority from God and He commands us to practices it. So we defend our faith and teach God's words based on the bible.

You can't generalize all christians to be like those you have come across. This is an unfair statements and is biased (there is a more proper word, but I forget. Will replace it when I remember. Smile ). And the opinions of some christians, if that is true, does not represent the opinions of the Church.

Since neither of us do not know the degree of relationships of fellow christians, it would be unwise to argue further. And since you do not know what is happening, you should not make sweeping statements that christians are not united based on what you heard, seen, and think!

It is clear to me (in your posts) that you like to quote sources from everywhere to your advantages, even if you may not know how true it is.

Smile

jnwk SG

Originally posted by Icemoon:

aiya .. denomination is man made lah .. at the end of the day can still worship as [b]one body in Christ - Campus Crusade is one good example.[/b]

Yes, you are right. Denomination is man made, based on the amount of faith one has to set up a church.

Yes, you are right. At the end of the day, we still acknowledge each other as brothers and sisters in Christ.

stupidissmart SG

Christianity is NOT a religion but a relationship with God. In life, there are two fathers. One is our physical father, the other is our spiritual Father. The reason Christianity is under religion category because it has to be under some category afterall right? So the authory has to put them under religion lo.

Aiyoh... u believe in a supernatural being and u believe u can have a relationship with it. This already clearly show u r in a religion. Wat is wrong with the word religion ?

How are you going to nuture your marriage or dating period? By spending time with your lover, right!? We spend time to build up relationship with the One True God, who guard our spirit -- the one who can destroy the body and the spirit. Man can only destroy the body but not the spirit. Who should we be afraid of more?

Spending time with lover I can understand because she is there standing in front of me. For god... err... spending time with it is like spending time with an imaginary friend...

aiya .. denomination is man made lah .. at the end of the day can still worship as one body in Christ - Campus Crusade is one good example.

if denomination is man made, then isn't religion man made as well Rolling Eyes There r some christ believers which r branded as cults. So u think they worship as one body in christ with u as well ? In a more general sense muslim and jews r also worshipping the same god. So u call them your brothers or start a crusade to kill them ?

shade343 SG

The thing is, religion is all man made. God didnt create religions. He merely send the different Gods and celestial beings down to this earth to teach man to do good.

Religion came about because of Man's pride and ego. They want to be seen associated with something great. That was how religion begun.

jnwk SG

I'm not going to answer any of your questions but I'm going to show you some verses:

We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.
(1 John 4:19-21)

I never know EH got outsiders who comes in and disrupt the peace in this forum here. Wah, this stupidissmart is the first hardcore person in EH I have ever meet. I shall not do any unconstructive things here.

BTW, stupid-is-smart, if you have any queries, this is a good site to answer your questions:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-Questions.html

God bless. Smile

laurence82 SG

Did i generalise? Gee, i re-read my posts and i dont see anything that hint of generalising.

And you dont get the point. We are talking abt humans. If you want to gloss over the fact humans are a very divisive lot, it doesnt work.

I think few weeks ago I introduced few terms, like Arianism and Monarchianists. It was surprising hardly any christian know them. Martin Luther isnt the first to break away from RC. 156 years after the death of christ, there were numerous divisions in the christian community, even when the RC was at its infant stage. Some of them dont believe in the holy trinity, and were persecuted for that. Thanks to Constantine and the Council of St Nicea, you guys now strictly believe in the holy trinity. i wonder what would have happen if these other guys fought thru.

Lets not just mention the Massacre of St Bartholomew Day. the debate in this forum, for example, between the RCs and Protestants already show the very deep fundamental divides. No matter how much you guys want to hug or embrace one another, or whatever, a significant amt of divide is already a big diivide, or divides if you please.

laurence82 SG

Which doesnt go well with many religions.

christians dont believe in many gods, buddhists dont believe in one supreme being, sounds like you are describing, but only a part of taoism...

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