Catholic is the most conservative form of christainity

last SG · 2005-08-11T15:48:01+00:00

Roman Catholics are not even Christians. You are comparing apple with oranges.

fandango SG

what do you mean?

SingaporeMacross SG

I must disagree.

fandango SG

you need to add two more:

Pope = savlation?

Works = salvation?

fandango SG

we shall see.

SingaporeMacross SG

Consider this: His caretakers Joseph and Mary put so much effort into raising him up, surely they must have made some impact in their lives, no?

SingaporeMacross SG

Ok, it is true that the Pope can't save you, your works can't save you, Mary can't save you, and that only Jesus can.

So what is the problem?

fandango SG

of course, Jesus was their child after all. what are you trying to say?

fandango SG

Icemoon, you want to take this question?

SingaporeMacross SG

Would Jesus have been able to come to earth, if there was no Mary?

Icemoon SG

yes .. why not?

Jesus could be born from Elizabeth, her cousin mah .. that time Elizabeth also barren right? Wink

SingaporeMacross SG

Then who will give birth to John the Baptist?

Icemoon SG

sgMacross said:

Erm .. if they believe every word sgMacross said, then there shouldn't be any problem.

But they sometimes confuse us leh. Read Vatican II. Different flavour.

Icemoon SG

Mary lor!

And the two kids will still be cousins. Wink

Just to check .. Elizabeth also from the Davidic line right?

fandango SG

Mary was blessed with the opportunity to be the mother of Jesus. That's about it you know.

Icemoon SG

She was just more blessed than barren women like Elizabeth and Sarah. That's about it. Very Happy

Honeybunz SG

Something about Mary... Not taken from Catholic Website.

http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article9174.asp

fandango SG

Something about Mary... Not taken from Christian Website.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a990730a.html

Honeybunz SG

Note what the fathers of Protestant Church said about Mary

John Calvin and Martin Luther

We do not worship Mary. We honour her. Just like how the early Protestants and all the other denominations have been doing in all the centuries.

Honeybunz SG

Har? Straightdope? What's that???

fandango SG

Originally posted by Honeybunz:
Note what the fathers of Protestant Church said about Mary

[b]John Calvin and Martin Luther

We do not worship Mary. We honour her. Just like how the early Protestants and all the other denominations have been doing in all the centuries. [/b]

Protestants honour Mary as well. We acknowledge her humility to accept the offer from God to be a vessel for Jesus. We acknowledge her suffering to see her son Jesus on the cross.

but, the way Protestants honour Mary is very different from the way Roman Catholics "honour" Mary.

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