You said it yourself. Whatever religion we belong to, we have
grounds to believe in things we accept as truths. These grounds may
be through experience, or factual events; experiences that we have
gone through personally. And that is enough for us to be anchored
in these truths. These reasons have been put forward time and time
again but you have turned a blind eye to it.
I have seen tis arguments many times before. And I have always
put forward another argument to it. The things u had experienced
before is not unique. Many people from other religion felt the same
thing. He felt tat his religion was true because of certain
encounters, u felt it is true because of your encounters, wat
conclusion can we reached ? Both can't be right u see. Tis is still
not a sign tat your religion is right, and there still isn't any
convincing evidence behind it.
Do we change beliefs every moment we face contradictions? Did
Thomas Edison give up everytime he encounter a failure? Did the
unknown stop Einstein from making his theories into laws of
physics? Do you give up hope in something because it has proven
difficult, or someone speaks against it? Would I give up my faith
because of something that puts doubt in my mind? NO! Because the
positive experiences that my Christian walk has put me through
outweighs the problems the world can dish out to me. I do not live
by logic alone, I am an emotional being with soul and spirit that
no science can satisfy.
Thomas edison give out using certain material for his filaments
when it was tested to fail. Einstein based his beliefs on evidence,
and use it to prove its theories. Doesn't all these show tat
evidence and facts r more important than plain belief ? I am not
asking u to give up on your task when u have a chance of succeed. I
am telling u there r overwhelming evidence tat proves to the
contrary and u should do a reality check. Doctors give up saving a
person's life when he saw tat his head was severed away an hour
ago. Engineers give up the use of certain materials when it was
proven it cannot fit the specifications required. The doctor
shouldn't waste time to save a person who is confirmed dead, and
the engineering shouldn't insist using tat material when it was
proven useless.
Within Etermnal Hope, many topics were started to clarify doubts
from a Christian point of view. You chose to state you point of
view. That is fine with me, but please know when to stop. Your
neverending and repeating arguments have become a nuisance. I
believe many have heard your views and read it more than they want.
It has made my experience in this forum unenjoyable, and I believe
I speak for a few others. I do not know how this can be changed,
but I wish you can post only when necessary without disturbing
harmony (perhaps when you think Eternal Hope is a cult, or when
we're putting people's lives in danger, or we're cheating people's
money).
If u do not like certain arguments, don't read ! There r many
threads, like the weekly thread in eternal hope where I never touch
isn't it ? As said before, u want to close up your opinions only to
christians ?
Sometimes, things appear being "explained away" because it's
attributed to something that is not convincing to you but it
doesn't mean it's not true. It's easy to believe in science because
there is physical evidence. If you don't believe in a divine being,
then of course it will appear to be "explained away". Christians
are not hillybillies who stay in the house and read the bible only.
They also watch TV, and yes Discovery Channel and National
Geographic too. Believing in a religion doesn't take away one's
ability to reason. But one's process of reasoning depends on his
past experiences and present circumstances.
I ask tis questions many times before. Wat do u view religion as
? A collection of folk stories, a book of law or a history text
where they tell us of certain events. Another question is does
faith requires reasoning ?
so true.... which is why there is really no point to rebut point
for point. Faith is not something that someone without it can
understand.
I have said tis many times before... faith is blind... no one
knows wat is correct or not using faith. U can say tat god creates
the world, another person can say a pink elephant creates the
world. It doesn't require any proving therefore u can claim
anything u want !
The world we live in now, to be exact is 4D. The 4th dimension
is time. Therfore, Einstein in his thory of relativity, time is
dependant on speed of an moving object. For eg, if u (20 years old)
could sit in a shuttle which goes at the speed of light, go to
pluto or somewhere far and come back to earth, u might be just 24
years old when u reach earth, but ur galfren ( at first same age as
u) might have past away due to old age.
Lets say...if we live in 2D, the 3rd dimension ( height) is always
a constant. To God, he does not live in the dimension we live in.
We are bounded by time. It is against logic to ask when is God's
b'day because he is not bounded by time. The question initiate with
"when" do not apply to Him. He is the beginning and the end of
time. We can measure date / time because we are bounded by this 4
dimensions.
But god has given a measurement of time when he create the
galaxy. Watever things u want to talk about dimensions bla bla bla
is insignificant as it is a fact tat he had given us a unit of
measurement in time. It is a day and he define a day explicitly as
the passing of a morning and night. He can't be trying to be funny
and tell us is a day when it is not a day isn't it ?
