7 Core Values ?

last SG · 2009-05-25T14:43:52+00:00

Today the SC made us chant the SAF core values again during water parade! Buey Tah Han!!! As Gen Y folks, we are resistant towards this kinda propaganda and...

dumbdumb! SG

You know what name to change from Hitler.

yeah yeah, grandpa lee. lol

but i think it's still alright, until new law specifically forces the armed forces to swear loyalty to him and his party alone.

ClaT SG

yeah yeah, grandpa lee. lol

but i think it's still alright, until new law specifically forces the armed forces to swear loyalty to him and his party alone.

Then it's time to initiate Operation ColdStone. :D

dumbdumb! SG

Then it's time to initiate Operation ColdStone. :D

sorry, didn't catch the cultural reference there

Man!x SG

Then it's time to initiate Operation ColdStone. :D

i think its "cold store"

Herzog_Zwei SG

lol, loyalty to people.. ok.

then again, faggy, which people? PRs? or singaporeans? i think loyalty to country is alright. singapore is singapore. it's not that the country don't serve its people, but whether the ruling party is serving the people.

in a war against another country, the distinction is very simple, singapore vs ************, the core value brings to mind we are fighting for singapore, and don't backstab your fellow countryman by aiding the enemy.

so i think loyalty to country, regardless of the ruling party, is sufficient.

btw, regarding your 10 metres cock comment? that's your low self-esteem talking, my faggy friend. i'm sure everyone loves you simply because you've got a nice fleshy butt to provide cushioning. don't worry about your penis size. ;)

farham?

How do you know that robots can be fags, nevermind being sexually active? You have been sucking too much of your infernal diety's penis again? The country is a political entity and the people means the citizens of the country. If the country doesn't serve the people, the people have the right to leave for a new country or request for a new government. If war was unilaterally declared by an unwanted government, who wants to hang around for the violent fallout?

dumbdumb! SG

lol, you're such a contradicting moron. first you claimed to have sex with my mum with your "10 metres penis" (such low self esteem issues.. tsk tsk), now you're telling me something about a robot who has no ability to be sexually active. make up your mind you silly little prick.

the country has no ability to serve. a country is... just a plot of land. the govt, on the other hand is a political entity. seriously, stop trying to sooth your ego by imaginating you have a 10 metres penis wanting to bang a milf or that you're some fancy back-to-the-future robot and live in reality ya?

i'm starting to believe your claim abt surviving IMH "unscathed" (like wtf that means anyway) ;)

Herzog_Zwei SG

i'm starting to believe your claim abt surviving IMH "unscathed" (like wtf that means anyway) ;)

Who said a robot needs a real human penis and by the way, what makes you think I am human? Ever tried looking up Herzog Zwei? A plot of land is not a country, a country is a political entity.

dumbdumb! SG

Who said a robot needs a real human penis and by the way, what makes you think I am human? Ever tried looking up Herzog Zwei? A plot of land is not a country, a country is a political entity.

lol, sorry to ruin your ego trip, but do i look like i care enough to know what your nick means?

a country is a country. a political party is a political entity.

eg:

country = singapore, malaysia, usa, china

political entity = PAP, UMNO, Democrats, Communist party

the country how to serve the people? it's the ruling party who serves the people.

get it, you stupid faggy "robot" (whatever)

angel7030 SG

Oh My gosh, Robot peepee///....wow! Terminator Salvation, must be.

angel7030 SG

It is propaganda. The government starts its propaganda in sec sch. (social studies)

no lah, i thot its started from my PAP kindergarden days??

Every morning before class, me and my kido mates hv to shout

PAP! PAP! PAP! PEE PEE Hurray!! X 3. Those not shouting hv to stand throughout the lessons

pearlie27 SG

Originally posted by Ah Chia: But here, the SAF is under control of state.

What do you mean by control of state? If you think that it is independent and not controlled by the ruling party, then you are very naive.

xtreyier SG

Originally posted by Ah Chia: But here, the SAF is under control of state.

What do you mean by control of state? If you think that it is independent and not controlled by the ruling party, then you are very naive.

Sigh...pearlie, who makes up the SAF?

It's our people, our fellow citizens, brothers, fathers, sisters, even mothers inside, along with our relatives and friends. Is there a need to fear our own SAF, whose sole duty had been always been to protect and defend us the people? Had it ever interfered in our political affairs? Are there any uniformed soldier as MP in our Parliament?

It only exists to train us on warfare and its organisation, keeping the reservists constantly updated on the latest information and tactics, so that in an outbreak of war or wars, we will be prepared and organised, unlike our forefathers who were kept stupid by the brits and annihilated by the squat jap bastards in 1942.

Herzog_Zwei SG

lol, sorry to ruin your ego trip, but do i look like i care enough to know what your nick means?

a country is a country. a political party is a political entity.

eg:

country = singapore, malaysia, usa, china

political entity = PAP, UMNO, Democrats, Communist party

the country how to serve the people? it's the ruling party who serves the people.

get it, you stupid faggy "robot" (whatever)

At least, I got the cojones to speak up against injustice! What kind of moral or immoral being are you? A country has borders and government, hence it is a political entity.

xtreyier SG

Country - a geographical area with physical dimensions

Nation - its people, history culture

State - the governing legal and political entity.

Gosh, do we really need perfect english and terms here in a forum which is not a literary heaven anyway, to understand what we really mean?

A) " I am fighting for my country" - can be commonly interpretated as meant fighting for a piece of rock and everyone that exists on the rock.

B.)I am fighting for my Nation" - same explanation.

C.) "I am fighting for the State" - can be commonly interpretated as meant the government and the ruling party,

but in Singapore, can the government and ruling party exists WITHOUT authority by vote from its people? No, thus even if one say fighting for the state, it would mean fighting for everyone as well as the land.

Country, Nation or State ultimately means one and similar thing - its people. Who can be more important than the people, regardless if we say we fight for our country or nation or state?

Hope that clears the issue up. Any further erudition, i guess we all need to go back to school and this place renamed as the "Queen's Perfect English and usuage Clarity Forum". Any violators of the Queen's engrishh gets banned, and probably me with be first one lor!

So chill out, will yer,guys? You'll are on the same page - 'protectin and defendin the people' - as far as I and probably readers reading here. It aint worth an ounce of energy you both goin on and on.

dumbdumb! SG

At least, I got the cojones to speak up against injustice! What kind of moral or immoral being are you? A country has borders and government, hence it is a political entity.

lol, what standing up? all i see here is a deluded faggot who sits behind a computer, griping against the govt, without any personal risk. and he thinks he's speaking up against injustice

you want to stand up against injustice, stand beside dr chee in person.

or else all i see is just someone with a big mouth, big enough to stuff 20 sausages inside.

lol.. i told u to go read a dictionary instead of just using it as a personal dildo.

Herzog_Zwei SG

lol, what standing up? all i see here is a deluded faggot who sits behind a computer, griping against the govt, without any personal risk. and he thinks he's speaking up against injustice

you want to stand up against injustice, stand beside dr chee in person.

or else all i see is just someone with a big mouth, big enough to stuff 20 sausages inside.

lol.. i told u to go read a dictionary instead of just using it as a personal dildo.

Woah, stand beside Dr Chee is justice? You god-sucking fag who act so high and mighty yet prefer to create disorder. The only legal party is the party that comes to power via election, not by creating disorder. Acting self-righteous yet can only suck his infernal diety's penis and creating disorder. Go read the dictionary which you keep using as a dildo because I only use dictionaries for the original purpose.

kopiosatu SG

i recite because after that i can DRINK UP!

Herzog_Zwei SG

Country - a geographical area with physical dimensions

Nation - its people, history culture

State - the governing legal and political entity.

Gosh, do we really need perfect english and terms here in a forum which is not a literary heaven anyway, to understand what we really mean?

A) " I am fighting for my country" - can be commonly interpretated as meant fighting for a piece of rock and everyone that exists on the rock.

B.)I am fighting for my Nation" - same explanation.

C.) "I am fighting for the State" - can be commonly interpretated as meant the government and the ruling party,

Country, Nation or State ultimately means one and similar thing - its people. Who can be more important than the people, regardless if we say we fight for our country or nation or state?

If there is a abuse of power, then the SAF won't be fighting for the people.

xtreyier SG

If there is a abuse of power, then the SAF won't be fighting for the people.

That is a very serious and dangerous, if not groundless belief. Singapore is not China

All I can say without fear and favour is that the military is to defend the country made up of its people. The SAF had already sworn an oath of allegiance to the people. Let us not blaspheme, impuge, or defile the honour and integrity of our cherish and treasured institution and its personnel whom had protected us from our neighbours' saber-rattling and more vocal warmongers for years since independance.

Herzog_Zwei SG

That is a very serious and dangerous, if not groundless belief. Singapore is not China

SAF did not swore any oath to the people but to the government and state of Singapore. The constituition of Singapore ensures the government to be democratically elected but nothing can ensure the intergrity of the government except the conscience of government.

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