Reasons on SAF Regulars Quit ?

last SG · 2008-08-06T13:23:45+00:00

I am an ex-SAF regular serving from 1999~2005 with the JPSDS scheme. I refused to change to the Premium plan in 2000 when it was first introduced and so exp...

eac SG

why is there low job satisfaction?

why is officer not perform up to standard?

same as any other companies...

may due to pay, % pay raise, job rotation, career advancement, peer appraisal, superior appraisal, work-life balance.

u should read up on those "Principle of Management" books...

Mospeada SG

ok...

but the books wun tell me what the men are really feeling on the ground...

to resolve the problem, we need to find the real root casues and address them...

eac SG

why is there low job satisfaction?

why is officer not perform up to standard?

ask urself... the satisfaction u feel...

when u r studying, u study till all A1s ?

or u r just satisted with...eg. aiyah... just pass can liao, or can make the mark for my desired course in poly/jc can liao...

Mospeada SG

ask urself... the satisfaction u feel...

when u r studying, u study till all A1s ?

or u r just satisted with...eg. aiyah... just pass can liao, or can make the mark for my desired course in poly/jc can liao...

i would be exceptional case...if my contact was not terminated...i would be one of those super siao onz type...

as to the study...i only aim for a pass leh

eac SG

i would be exceptional case...if my contact was not terminated...i would be one of those super siao onz type...

as to the study...i only aim for a pass leh

that's how u see it... if u r so ON, office politics come into play. ur colleagues will feel threaten e.g. when peer appraisal, or promotion time. with these lead to... working environment, interpersonal skills.

the theory for study satisfaction is the same is job satisfaction... u get the idea..

Mospeada SG

yah...but what's the causes for politics....

eac SG

yah...but what's the causes for politics....

if u r the CO, u need to deal with...say...for example... "corporate image": battalion ATEC grade, downgrade/injuries numbers, logistics / medical centre keeping the ISO standards with annual audits...etc.

CO push OC, OC push PC, PC push PS, PS push sect comds, then push men... hence the internal problems...

Mospeada SG

that is only assumption right?

any data to proof that?

how strong is the correlation ?

eac SG

that is only assumption right?

any data to proof that?

how strong is the correlation ?

this is not an assumption...

meetings r oftenly held at division level/battalion level to discuss these issues...

COs across all camps r fighting for places in higher HQs, e.g. division HQs, mindef HQ, and those staff appointments...etc for career advancements/prospects...

Reservist liao... no data available...

Mospeada SG

this is not an assumption...

meetings r oftenly held at division level/battalion level to discuss these issues...

COs across all camps r fighting for places in higher HQs, e.g. division HQ, mindef HQs...etc for career advancements/prospects...

Reservist liao... no data available...

yah...that's why...they only resolve the problem at the 2nd or 3rd level causes...never went to the root causes...that's why the problem always boomerrang back at them sometime later...

GHoST_18 SG

quit to get a new wife...

Mospeada SG

quit to get a new wife...

hahaha

eac SG

yah...that's why...they only resolve the problem at the 2nd or 3rd level causes...never went to the root causes...that's why the problem always boomerrang back at them sometime later...

COs promoted or change of appointments to division HQ at other camps.

new CO take over, as usual... change of style, new rules...etc.

Mospeada SG

COs promoted or change of appointments to division HQ at other camps.

new CO take over, as usual... change of style, new rules...etc.

if so...then they will need to be trained how to treat their customers better...(in the case, it will be his troops..)

if his troops are well taken care of , they will be movtivated to perform, and if they perform well..he will perform well also...

tis a win win strategy

eac SG

if so...then they will need to be trained how to treat their customers better...(in the case, it will be his troops..)

if his troops are well taken care of , they will be movtivated to perform, and if they perform well..he will perform well also...

tis a win win strategy

this happen everywhere in other companies... the hierarchy...
seriously... if u go read those books, the main points r there... just apply in military context... its a typical case study..

CO wants the result from his immediate subordinates... the OCs... the theory of the chain of command...

so the cycle continues... CO push OCs, OCs push PCs, PCs push PSs, PSs push sect comds, then push men...

the OCs use their own styles to get results from the PCs, PCs use their own styles to get results from PSs and their men... the cycle continue...

OCs report to CO, CO reports to higher HQ... the division HQ.

Mospeada SG

this happen everywhere in other companies... the hierarchy...
seriously... if u go read those books, the main points r there... just apply in military context... its a typical case study..

we are digressing from the root causes analysis liao...

eac SG

we are digressing from the root causes analysis liao...

it's interconnected...

it linked back all the way to the crux, "Why NS?"... all over again as almost all NSFs will just want to serve and f off.... ORD... that's one great sense of job satisfaction.

Rednano SG

we are digressing from the root causes analysis liao...

yup, all that chain of command, the hierarchy.... what a typical case study of a company/organisation in a typical textbook... just rename relevants in the military context...

maggot SG

With so many elite scholars in the SAF still cannot keep people from quiting?

Either the elite scholars are not working or there are really serious problems in the SAF

the Bear SG

With so many elite scholars in the SAF still cannot keep people from quiting?

Either the elite scholars are not working or there are really serious problems in the SAF

in places like SAF and SPF, you require a LOT of kar kia and a few leaders...

unfortunately, in the SAF and SPF, we have truckloads of lea-duhs and not enough kar kia... and they pay the kar kia a pittance to do the majority of the work while they pay the lea-duhs unreasonably huge salaries to be parasites...

you think the kar kia won't leave in droves?

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