Army vs Coporate world

near SG

LKY and his son will agree with this point Laughing

ord personnel SG

Agreed.

One can choose to spend one's time and energy scheming on how to 'keng', or to improve on one's abilities. One obvious example is dealing with difficult people, whether they are superiors or subordinates. We'll no doubt meet difficult people inside or outside the army.

You may think that there is no incentive - low pay, lousy people around you, etc - but yet in the end you are no better. They probably have no better impression of you; a scheming, skulking, pretentious, untrustworthy, slacking individual.

Alternatively, you might do well to do your part well. You will gain positive skills and insight when you come out. You are in a different league from the kengsters. Not to worry if you think you are doing more than others - you gain their respect. Yet you learn tact, to prevent yourself from getting pushed around. Then again, don't be a sycophant.

Nevertheless, most Sillyporeans can probably understand the 'chao keng' logic better than any other logic.

BenBenDeZhu SG

Actually in some countries there are laws protecting the worker from this kind of sacking but sadly this statement holds true for singapore Evil or Very Mad

jianfish9 SG

Its is now politically, or shall I say officially, incorrect to say that one should accept very low pay because it is a Singaporean male's duty to serve and defend the country. That we should be motivated not by pay but by our sense of duty to our country.

After all, our govt is saying that we have to pay our ministers alot of money so that they will serve the country well.
So now, I hope they will not use the excuse of "honour of serving the country" as an excuse for the poor pay NSF are getting.

Ristar SG

im willing to bet they are willing to say anything that will cut costs.

Ristar SG

i'd agree with u if i were younger by about a year.

at that time, i'd even go as far as to say that those who keng are rubbish because they do not understand that the security of the nation is at stake. they do not understand that the SAF is the only thing standing in between life and death for our island nation, and if every soldier of ours can kill 10 or 20, with the war heroes killing hundreds of theirs while saving hundreds of our own (value and proficiency of an individual soldier), we can fight and win any war.

i'd even say that every infantry soldier should be as good as the US Army's DELTA Force or US Navy's SEAL and our SOF like Splinter Cells ( Laughing quite moronic because SC doesnt exist... or do they?), with people of other arms/vocation being very competent in their jobs and if the need arises to use them as infantrymen, be as good as the US Marines, since we have to make up for quantity by quality.

tough training in exchange for national security, freedom of the people, life, prosperity and future job opportunities in the civilian world... sounds like a very good deal. Afterall, a pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood.

however, seeing that no regulars signed on for the right reason imo a year ago (loyalty to country), and they basically do nothing other than play PSP all day (SAF pay them a handsome sum of money every month to play PSP), though i admit good ones dont.

...or dun even appear without the need of deducting their offs, they can do things slow while NSF have to be on the ball... if they dunno how to use the equipment, they ask us... but if we dunno, we get pushups or extras... if they think A is B while A is really just A, and punish u for saying the right thing and after they find out the truth, they dun even apologise and wanna smoke out, that kinda dampens the patriotic spirit in me. a lot.

however, i still performed to the best of my abilities and a year later, now, i try to think how my patriotism has affected my unit... and nation. and i do not see any difference because one man can not make a difference.

therefore, i'd say, let the chao keng ones keng, let the patriots serve. the well's water dun go n offend the river's water can already. Laughing

near SG

Gain positive skills and insight when you come out?

OMG! The only skills that you learn in the army is how to do sai kang Laughing

Btw, kenging is also a way of dealing with difficult people.

And who cares what your superior think about you? Afterall, it is SAF after 2 years.

Neverthless, most sillyporeans like to deceive themself thinking that they do learn something out of the 2 years.

It takes an earth shaking situation like a war and than everybody sees how incompetent the SAF is than these sillyporeans will finally realise that ns is a waste of time

Ristar SG

...and the sai kang never ends... Laughing

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