Enquries on Section Commander

last SG · 2006-10-10T13:53:56+00:00

Last time during my BMT, one of my section commanders was actually a corporal. He was a disruptee that got posted to BMTC as instructor. I remember he relax...

Ponders SG

OCC means they had injury so can't carry onto the combat vocation.

Rejects means somehow during their training Mindef discovered something about them that they can't clear security, etc. So "reject".

some is those attitude problem so "reject".

saline SG

u mean OOC rite? Wink

Ponders SG

ya.. OOC.. anyway.. new term is OOT.

hudax1 SG

Depends on unit? How about vocations? What is the rank of S.C in Infantry and Commando?

Regards Hudax

pwnz0r SG

Typical is 3SG for Singapore. The rest are exceptions rather than the rule. If you are in some special battalion that was formed for ‘testing’, then you can see higher estabs for some appointments.

pwnz0r SG

Typically if a corporal takes on the role of a SC, then he will himself locally promoted to 3SG provided he served sufficient time in that capacity.

hudax1 SG

Wait, that meant each roles you need sufficient time to serve for roles.

Do you know the duration hours who must served as Corporal after locally promoted to Sargeant, Do you?

Samuelpsw SG

thn do any of u guys have a formation of how a battalion or how a section will look like?

Ponders SG

I used to remember the times. there is a table of "pre-requisite" before a local promotion and the minimum amount of time before a S/ promotion.

If i don't remember wrongly, it is 4 months of CPL before proceeding to L/3SG

LazerLordz SG

Not true, the higher estabs are found in units established a long time ago, and not merely for "experimentation".

But yes, generally, a SC is a 3SG.

Thru' Thick N Thin SG

i know of this SC who was a CPL. He went thru Sispec without been awarded 3SG rank, as he was ranked last.

Well, let's put it this way, the ranking did not lie.

saline SG

Shocked but did he pass out of sispec?

Ponders SG

Errm.. when was this. i think it is quite recent ?

In the past they still stay as corporal as they did not clear the veto factor and thus recourse.

Recently, beacuse of the NS cut, most units try to reduce recoursees, so maybe his case is that he did not clear a veto factor and thus can't be promoted but Sispec can't recourse him either.

saline SG

if so, how can he be a SC? Confused

hudax1 SG

Veto factor? Like what?

specfore SG

In the good old days, of which I was a part of it, the SAFINCOS ( Sispec's predecessor) section commander "graduation" rank was Corporal. Those who failed SOC , IPPT or some other major test will not graduate as CPL. They will be given Lance Corporal. They cannot attend the passing out ceremony ( which is a form of punishment). They will get their CPL rank after one year of service in the unit.

I am not surprised to hear that today's Sispec will not award the rank of 3SG to trainees if they fail one major test. And that the trainee will leave Sispec with one rank lower than the establishment.

flash9933 SG

My batch got 2 did not pass shooting and pass out as LCP while the rest got 3SG. Eventually, they passed and got their 3 straps.

Thru' Thick N Thin SG

Last i heard, tat CPL SC remained as CPL…..apparently in his unit, he did not prove competent enuff…...looked down by everyone from OC to men

Ponders SG

During my time... the veto factor is...

under-50% of knowledge based test
Not attaining silver for IPPT,
under-50% for field performance
not passing SOC.

I think the only thing you can really fail is IPPT and SOC.

newtype SG

i have even see LT having the role of sec com or RTO Wink

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