if a saf personnel is beeing assualted by a civilian,

Gordonator SG

i'll really love to see that. Laughing

Gordonator SG

halt halt or i'll shoot!

halt halt or i'll shoot!

halt halt or i'll shoot!

*bang*

ok seriously, it's quite long winded actually if i were to explain it in details. Mr. Green

Gordonator SG

something like this. just ignore the US part. Laughing

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SpecOps87 SG

Can shoot the fella immediately after giving 3 warnings mehz? I tot u muz after giving the warnings, fire off a single round as final warning before u can actually engage the fella.

What if like while doing guard duty at the gates, vehicle approaches, refuses to stop. What do you do?

ditzy SG

Run away, that's for sure. Laughing

SpecOps87 SG

My colleague at the Combat Engineers camp at Seletar once kena such an incident, gate sentry ordered vehicle approaching to stop, that fella carryon. Gate sentry radio guardroom, their encik came out with a few other guys, and loaded the M16,cocked it and pointed it at the approaching vehicle before the driver finally stopped.Bet that guy must be scared shitless…

ditzy SG

That vehicle must have been travelling very slow. Laughing They got time to do this and that.

nameuser SG

if a saf personnel is being beaten up...he might be an officer

the reason is actually veri obvious

larrenV2.003 SG

Then u choing towards the enemy front & shoot him down face to face lar.... Laughing

If he is a suicide bomber then u can imagine the RP's becoming dead meat infront of the guard house

Nelstar SG

If the RP can identify the bombs, they can shoot to kill.

If they can..

Laughing

riken1974 SG

FYI, the ROE u had is the old one.....the ROE has been changed after 911....due to terrosit threat.....we are authorised to shoot to kill or maim if the person is attempting to cause damage to SAF properties or life...ever wonder y some unit had a GPMG loaded with 2000 live rounds facing the entrance of the camp....is it to injured or kill????

Shotgun SG

Its used to blast the barking engine block until the vehicle tak boleh jalan. HUr hur.

Seriously, I was never told that I could never shoot somebody in the back.

Seletar camp always got a lot of bo liao things happening. Illegal grass cutters lar, and other nonsense. But nowadays, security tighten a lot liao.

Sungei Gedong also got stupid stuff happening. These 2.... illegal immigrant running amok. Damn farnee lar.

Seriously, very long ago, I remember being issued only 3 rounds for prowling. Basket... that 3 rounds like GOLD like that. We keep that red taped mag, in our SBO inverted in case the rounds drop out.

SpecOps87 SG

But seriously..if u are on prowl on lets say P.Tekong…and see a bunch of unidentified armed frogmen just landing and attempting to infiltrate. Will you fire? Many will say alot about firing…but shooting at paper targets and shooting at a mass of moving flesh and blood is a totally diff. kinda thing.

one-niner SG

Report back to guard com, proceed to investigate loh..if the situation arise, if u have to fire, u got to fire ....besides..the incident your describing is happening at nite...not too sure if BMTC are using SAR 21s, with a M16 without LADs..shooting a black mass running or hiding with 3 rnds..is going to be one hell of an shootout man Laughing

well the reason for IA Drill aka Immediate Action Drill, is to respone to the situation ASAP.so given the above mentioned scenrio u described,loading the magazine, shouting the ROE and shooting should be almost instantnous ...

LazerLordz SG

Firstly, move you and your partner to a place where you can comms in near silence, but still keep a lookout.Go tactical and lie low.

Radio the Guard Comd or even better, sms the Guard Comd as it will be better for noise discipline.Never leave your partner behind.

storm_freaky13 SG

WAH SMS... lets say if you see a group of men prowling... you dont know if they are armed but have every reason to suspect so.. i dun think sms will be fast enough lol.

if they start shooting.. 6 rounds.... AHHHHHHH!!!!!

Shotgun SG

Wah, u all got guts man... a team of frogman u all also wanna engage?

Still have to remember AOJ. Firstly, do they outnumber us? And do we have the ability to engage them and win? If a team of frogman suddenly emerge from the water, I'd report to guard com and panic liao. Hahaha. Most prob they'd "stand to" everybody and mobilize the ready reaction force to back us up.

3 bullets isn't worth crap lar. I've figured the 3 bullets is for chasing away wild dog packs or something.

Nelstar SG

Which year one.

3 bullets?

I kena 180 live not guards rounds before.

Laughing

LazerLordz SG

As I said, assess the situation first.If it's a section or less, monitor and move silently away from exposed areas.

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