I, a Singaporean Chinese refuse to speak Mandarin

last SG · 2010-05-04T01:32:51+00:00

Are you sure?He obviously has an agenda.Just look at his other threads.Another elitist asshole in the making.i try not to form an impression from the many t...

BanguIzai SG

Hi TS

Take a look at this post, http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/352418?page=6#post_8928699

eagle SG

I never said speaking Mandarin will lower my IQ, read my original post. I said you should speak to your friends in whatever language and leave me out of it, because speaking to you will lower my IQ. Why? Isn't it obvious?

I see. Speaking to a first class honours scholar with 2 awards attached, being among the top in Asia for Physics Olympiad, among the top 10 in Singapore for Physics A levels and educated in a top JC that's predominantly English, who achieved a 6 figure portfolio at age 26, will lower your IQ, I guess.

It's quite obvious you are committing another logical fallacy called Personal Attack.

Happy posting.

Devil7030 SG

Mandarin is just a language that one uses to communicate with people who can only speak mandarin or who are more comfortable with mandarin.

When you talk to someone in mandarin, it evokes some instant closeness between the two mandarin-speaking individuals.

For those who grow up in Singapore who are bilingual, they have double advantages as they can communicate and understand the cultures of the East and the West. This will enhance their career opportunities and the development of oneself holistically too.

If you refuse to speak mandarin, it is your choice and you choose to miss out on the opportunities.

ChoCoChips SG

It's quite obvious you are committing another logical fallacy called Personal Attack.

Happy posting.

HAO LIAN!

>=(

eagle SG

HAO LIAN!

>=(

Just can't resist it

Add on a 150kg deadlift and 120kg squat?

Devil7030 SG

How does Lee Kuan Yew or Lee Yui Tuck communicate ? They both can't speak much Chinese. I think many of our leaders do not speak fluent Mandarin.

How does 1/4 of Singapore's populace communicate? Since 1/4 of us are Indians and Malays/ Eurasians.

How do Philippino maids, Australian expats, Indian teachers, Arab money changers and South Korean students communicate?

Please use your brain.

It seems that you cannot read English.

I wrote "how do you communicate with those people who can only speak mandarin huh ?"

I question your IQ leh ? Your IQ score got 50 or not huh ?

BanguIzai SG

Talking about fallacies hahaha

I hope Singaporeans also do not commit bandwagon fallacy such that we agree with whatever majority believes, must be the truth. We also should avoid argumentum ad verecundiam such that we agree with whatever an authority believes, must be the truth.

eg. Since the official language is (*such & such*), therefore it is true that we must (*speak / learn / etc.*)

eg. Since the national language is (*such & such*), therefore we believe it to be true

eg. Since the schools are teaching (*such & such*), therefore we accept it to be true

CHEERS

eagle SG

Talking about fallacies hahaha

eg. Since the official language is (*such & such*), therefore it is true that we must (*speak / learn / etc.*)

eg. Since the national language is (*such & such*), therefore we believe it to be true

eg. Since the schools are teaching (*such & such*), therefore we accept it to be true

CHEERS

Nice!

Clivebenss SG

Talking about fallacies hahaha

eg. Since the official language is (*such & such*), therefore it is true that we must (*speak / learn / etc.*)

eg. Since the national language is (*such & such*), therefore we believe it to be true

eg. Since the schools are teaching (*such & such*), therefore we accept it to be true

CHEERS

How about what the parents have taught? The mother tongue?

Be it English, Mandarin or dialects.

littlemissbonkers SG

Talking about fallacies hahaha

eg. Since the official language is (*such & such*), therefore it is true that we must (*speak / learn / etc.*)

eg. Since the national language is (*such & such*), therefore we believe it to be true

eg. Since the schools are teaching (*such & such*), therefore we accept it to be true

CHEERS

The reason why so many people are pissed with TS is not becoz of group think (like what you are saying).

It's because he has an attitude problem and is an elitist asshole who thinks that he's superior to people who do not have the same mindset.

Also because he thinks that just being proficient in 1 language is enough...well we'll see...when China really rises up and pwns us all....we'll know who will be wiping tables...

I'm not just saying this for Mandarin...learning more than one language is practical, common sense and can help you in life...only an idiot with no foresight would think that one language is enough.

BanguIzai SG

How about what the parents have taught? The mother tongue?

Be it English, Mandarin or dialects.

No right no wrong lor (from different perspective)

Example:

Dad - Hokkien, Mom - Hokkien, decides to only teach child Hokkien, meets another child who speaks only Cantonese because Dad - Cantonese, Mom - Cantonese

It is the choice of the child to choose whatever common language to communicate with each other. It shouldn't be prescribed that they must talk in Mandarin or must talk in English.

It should be a social factor motivated by natural causes. Like back to the old days when Chinese converse to Malay people in Malay Language or Bazaar Malay

Clivebenss SG

No right no wrong lor (from different perspective)

Example:

Dad - Hokkien, Mom - Hokkien, decides to only teach child Hokkien, meets another child who speaks only Cantonese because Dad - Cantonese, Mom - Cantonese

It is the choice of the child to choose whatever common language to communicate with each other. It shouldn't be prescribed that they must talk in Mandarin or must talk in English.

It should be a social factor motivated by natural causes. Like back to the old days when Chinese converse to Malay people in Malay Language or Bazaar Malay

In old days even those who spoke only their own dialects can still communicate by learning a few words of each others or Pasar Malay with the other races.

BanguIzai SG

The reason why so many people are pissed with TS is not becoz of group think (like what you are saying).

It's because he has an attitude problem and is an elitist asshole who thinks that he's superior to people who do not have the same mindset.

Also because he thinks that just being proficient in 1 language is enough...well we'll see...when China really rises up and pwns us all....we'll know who will be wiping tables...

I'm not just saying this for Mandarin...learning more than one language is practical, common sense and can help you in life...only an idiot with no foresight would think that one language is enough.

ok i see. Learning more languages is good, but why our Singapore government stops at 2? there must be a reason, and i gonna dig up an old post of mine to show you the dirty secrets hehehe:

http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/370029?page=4#post_9273576

READ with your EYES BIG BIG hehehe

littlemissbonkers SG

In old days even those who spoke only their own dialects can still communicate by learning a few words of each others or Pasar Malay with the other races.

Wah ah gong...I tot u normally only type a few words one? Today so enthu ah?

BanguIzai SG

ok i see. Learning more languages is good, but why our Singapore government stops at 2? there must be a reason, and i gonna dig up an old post of mine to show you the dirty secrets hehehe:

http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/370029?page=4#post_9273576

READ with your EYES BIG BIG hehehe

ok i see. Learning more languages is good, but why our Singapore government stops at 2? there must be a reason, and i gonna dig up an old post of mine to show you the dirty secrets hehehe:

http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/370029?page=4#post_9273576

READ with your EYES BIG BIG hehehe

a few more evidences:

http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/370029?page=5#post_9274709

http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/370029?page=5#post_9275993

littlemissbonkers SG

ok i see. Learning more languages is good, but why our Singapore government stops at 2? there must be a reason, and i gonna dig up an old post of mine to show you the dirty secrets hehehe:

http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/370029?page=4#post_9273576

READ with your EYES BIG BIG hehehe

U know why our govt stopped at 2?

Look at TS and you know already...He'll ask...why? why must we learn so many languages? My mommy also not from those countries den I learn for wat?

I have nothing against people who are proficient in more then 1, 2 or even 3 and more languages...in fact I'm all for learning as many languages as you can.

So I can't stand elitist idiots like TS.

BanguIzai SG

U know why our govt stopped at 2?

Look at TS and you know already...He'll ask...why? why must we learn so many languages? My mommy also not from those countries den I learn for wat?

I have nothing against people who are proficient in more then 1, 2 or even 3 languages...in fact I'm striving to learn as many languages as I can.

And I definitely can't stand elitist idiots like TS.

The government do not need to fear or pre-empt people like TS like you think so

The government has it's own agenda, so please my words again, do not fall into the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam

Clivebenss SG

U know why our govt stopped at 2?

Look at TS and you know already...He'll ask...why? why must we learn so many languages? My mommy also not from those countries den I learn for wat?

I have nothing against people who are proficient in more then 1, 2 or even 3 languages...in fact I'm striving to learn as many languages as I can.

And I definitely can't stand elitist idiots like TS.

It help to know a bit more of another language/dialect to interact with another race. Good for you.

BanguIzai SG

In old days even those who spoke only their own dialects can still communicate by learning a few words of each others or Pasar Malay with the other races.

Yes, even I still speak Pasar Malay to Malays now

Many languages in the world are formed through the process of Creolization

I hope the government understands

littlemissbonkers SG

The government do not need to fear or pre-empt people like TS like you think so

The government has it's own agenda, so please my words again, do not fall into the fallacy of argumentum ad verecundiam

Everyone has an agenda, even you have an agenda for posting all these threads....so your point is?

I know you support TS becoz he's not doing what the govt is forcing the rest of us to do.

But let me ask you....will learning Mandarin kill you? Will it render you incapable of speaking another language? Then why not? Why not take up a language that would most probably help you in future? It's not like Mandarin is a ancient/long forgotten language that would not be useful in these times. SO I ask again? Why not?

And I would rather not drag politics into this btw....if not this would be a never ending debate.

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