Future MRT/LRT lines

last SG · 2010-04-15T19:27:21+00:00

Just think... If LTA accepts all our plans the system map will look like the service map @ CBD...

Samuel Lee SG

I thought they scrapped JR LRT????? Finally back on the drawing board? If its true I think its rather late of them to do so. I feel that the west is not served as well as the east to the central part of S'pore...

Wait, they also scrapped Punggol North LRT line as well. Look, the LTA only said that they will not build any more LRT lines until some major developments on the urban areas or so. (Whatever they said, it means there is a condition to be met, before more LRT lines will be introduced.)

So, I think they are actually not scrapped Punggol North & JR LRT, but halted them for unknown time. (Dont PM me or LTA for the timeframe, because they wont know when will the areas there will be developed, considering JR LRT is also meant to serve the NTU students, the Jurong West until now, still quite ulu place.)

Samuel Lee SG

Maybe, we should discussion on Future MRT / LRT lines V2 because:

1: This is outdated and contains some errors, which NickLim has pointed out.

2: The Tuas Extension, further up from Joo Koon is wrong. It should be the EW30 has an extension line, instead of EW31. The amount of stations is correct.

3: Whether will the "South Pier" station exists in future or not, I am not sure. But I am sure, that the LTA did planned but halted or scrapped the idea of extend the NSL to Marina South and further up to Marina Barrage, which requires a left U-Turn. (So now only Marina South extension by 2014, and add 1 station -- Marina South)

Annilator47 SG

"Johore Line" will never happen. Provisions in JB Sentral only allow (for a metro) the Maglev system to ply 2 routes in JB only.

West Coast LRT? Iirc LRT in Singapore is only meant to serve as a feeder within neighbourhoods. And it's pretty absurd to have one running from Pasir Panjang all the way up to near King Albert Park. BRT can do the job better. Same goes for Jurong Region LRT.

Holland Line will be difficult west of Bukit Batok. It has to run under military restricted areas. Do note that Merlimau, Seraya and Sakra are locations in Jurong Island.

Punggol North Line will only consist of 4 stations after Teck Lee.

And where in the world can you have East Point station? If the train moves forward after Terminal 4, it will become a submarine to Batam and Bintan.

i have to disagree with you on the johore line that will never happen..and here is the proof:

http://www.iskandarmalaysia.com.my/news/100308/sultan-willing-to-mediate

so ti still remains a possaibility..not a confirmed rejected issue yet.

NickLim™ SG

i have to disagree with you on the johore line that will never happen..and here is the proof:

http://www.iskandarmalaysia.com.my/news/100308/sultan-willing-to-mediate

so ti still remains a possaibility..not a confirmed rejected issue yet.

Johore Line as shown in the map is the proposed RapidJB Maglev LRT's Tebrau Line which is a fully elevated maglev system capable of a maximum speed of 80km/h, minus the JB Sentral - Causeway link.

You did not read the underlined sentence wrongly.

Anyway, an MRT will be impossible to connect to JB Sentral, the integrated transport and immigration hub since it will have to be underground. Then there's the issue of customs. Are you going to have it like the current Woodlands Train Checkpoint?

NickLim™ SG

i have to disagree with you on the johore line that will never happen..and here is the proof:

http://www.iskandarmalaysia.com.my/news/100308/sultan-willing-to-mediate

so ti still remains a possaibility..not a confirmed rejected issue yet.

But it may happen, just not according to the speculative map.

alstom metropolis SG

This is a future map i took from google:

Are u sure that esplanade,bras basah and dhoby ghaut will no longer be part of the CCl?

To be weirder,TE2/TU7 is called Sang Nila Utama. . .

Samuel Lee SG

Are u sure that esplanade,bras basah and dhoby ghaut will no longer be part of the CCl?

I think, it is NOT. So another error by this future map.

Annilator47 SG

the direction of the map is correct but somehow the number of stations have changed

Take for example DTL stage 2:

note if you compare this one to the present map at LTA webbie, from bukit panjang to botanic gardens theres 8 stations in total, however this map show only 7 in that distance, another part is from newton to little india theres a station in this map but none in the LTA webbie

another thing is that the stations like DBG,Bras basah, esplanade were part of the former bukit timah line which now become part of CCL stage 1

other things that were accurate is the DTL stage 1and CCL 4 and 5.

for thomson line and Eastern region line, best to use this map as a rough reference, the line could change, so could the number of stations also as proven.

Scania96 SG

Overheard a cso talking just now and he said that Toa Payoh will become an interchange! He also say that in 2020, there will be a train to JB. He also say by 2030, th mrt map will be like spider web.

willis_chong SG

Overheard a cso talking just now and he said that Toa Payoh will become an interchange! He also say that in 2020, there will be a train to JB. He also say by 2030, th mrt map will be like spider web.

CSOs have no indication of future plans. He may be talking about the speculated map.

Samuel Lee SG

Overheard a cso talking just now and he said that Toa Payoh will become an interchange! He also say that in 2020, there will be a train to JB. He also say by 2030, th mrt map will be like spider web.

CSO only what, just a staff of a station, he is not the one to plan it, so, it could be as Willis said, based on this speculation map, but it is quite outdated and I think after 2011 Concept Plan is out, we, as the train enthus, should have come up a more professional speculation than this.

NickLim™ SG

we, as the train enthus, should have come up a more professional speculation than this.

No. We are not professionals. We are just people who are interested in trains. I personally will not claim knowledge of everything in the system.

willis_chong SG

The most we can do is make a map of what we think it is, which is still a speculation map, or your own dream map. Not a professional map.

Samuel Lee SG

Ok lah, ok lah, professional may sound too what, but, it is just our version of white paper? Or rather, professional as in with the professional attitude to do it, with the best educated guess only.

Operation//Overkill SG

This is a future map i took from google:

Train connecting Singapore and Johor? Impossible..... There would be an argument on who is going to pay for rolling stock , track , station , etc. But if this is the future MRT line of Singapore..... We no place to live liao la....... Lowest HDB block would already be 40 floors.

Operation//Overkill SG

Overheard a cso talking just now and he said that Toa Payoh will become an interchange! He also say that in 2020, there will be a train to JB. He also say by 2030, th mrt map will be like spider web.

Toa Payoh near to JB meh? If they wan create line i think they would start the line at either woodlands , marsling or kranji

Samuel Lee SG

Why?

1: There might be chances that, Singapore - part of JB special economic zone no need passport de. So this may not be an issue (Of Woodlands Train Checkpoint). Regarding rolling stock, track, station, I think is not an issue as well.

My suggestion is for the station wise, Malaysian authority will do Malaysia JB sector. Singapore LTA will plan the track sector for Singapore side.

Rolling stock? Either they formed a joint LTA, or having 2 rolling stock with different porpotions, based on the track length, proposed economical benefits etc.

2: All future MRT lines should be fully underground, I think it might be possible for LRT stations in future to be underground as well. So, for no place to live is not too valid, and I think the future lowest should be around 15 to 25 floors and 30 ~ 40 floors should be the median. Dont forget that our land cannot support > 240 ~ 280m in height for the buildings. So, dont expect to have many 60 (Or above) floor flats becoz it will become "Sinkapore".

c751bLoVuR SG

btw I really hate the TSL

Operation//Overkill SG

Why?

My suggestion is for the station wise, Malaysian authority will do Malaysia JB sector. Singapore LTA will plan the track sector for Singapore side.

Rolling stock? Either they formed a joint LTA, or having 2 rolling stock with different porpotions, based on the track length, proposed economical benefits etc.

Make sense.... But I disagree with ur point on the passport-free. If no need passport then Singapore n Malaysia would be out of control in terms of population count. And rmb this , the government of Singapore is expecting 6million citizens in Singapore. If no passport , ppl can go Malaysia to begin a new life there isn't it? So this is the only point I disagree...... The rest makes sense to me. :)

NickLim™ SG

Most countries in the European Union allow their citizens to cross over to the other's country without a passport.

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