Born muslim converts to other religion

last SG · 2009-05-11T01:22:17+00:00

Not all finding God.Some people are too caught up to work so hard to make ends meet. Some are working hard to pursue their dreams.

theme_and_guess SG

this is kinda like da vinci code storybook..... science and priest fight!! which reminds me, angels and demons are out..... oh yeah

stupidissmart SG

As for believers:

You know how does an ordinary Singapore citizen know that they have a government who runs things supposedly on their behalf since it claims to be a republic.

The story u say is pretty unimpressive because all three of them experience different scenarios on a real thing such as governance. There is no real thing such as "god"... at least in the terms of science. Furthermore a person who is isolated from young and see properity and science will believe everything tat is told to them. They r not gonna go crazy and rebel because he see it himself tat the system is working. It is not like religion where everything is really just... reinterpreting reality and everything cannot be verified

How about the below story

3 people drifted to different isolated islands. One is a believer, one a follower ( wat is the diff between the 2 ?) and the last is an atheist. The believer, believe god will provide for him as long as he believe. He did not go and find food, or find water or find lodgings and just pray for god to deliver him out of this probem. He got his wish. He died soon due to lack of food. Now the follower also believe someone out there will provide for him and following god will give him ungodly advantage over others. Well if god is fair, then life is fair and no special advantages r given to him. He soon die as well. The atheist reach the island, and already knew tat his survival depends on himself solely. He find a steady food supply, find water and find ways and means to survive without hoping for supernatural intervention. After surviving for a long period of time, he manage to find help and survive.

angel7030 SG

AND TMR SAT IS MY BIRTHDAY~! YAY~!!!! One year older liaos~

happy birdday

yourmotherrr SG

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can divorce islam now?

Fantagf SG

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can divorce islam now?

can. my muslim neighbour just divorced her muslim husband

maskedangel SG

can. my muslim neighbour just divorced her muslim husband

he was referring to divorcing the religion itself, as in, converting to other religion

Fantagf SG

he was referring to divorcing the religion itself, as in, converting to other religion

oh , really?

Gabriella SG

Hmm.. I tout punishment for leaving Islam is death by stoning according to the Quran?

dumbdumb! SG

Hmm.. I tout punishment for leaving Islam is death by stoning according to the Quran?

if you're going word for word, i think so. a muslim should be able to confirm. but in singapore, obviously stoning is out, so usually the family outcast the convert. but some muslims think a convert's life is all flowers and rainbows, with no impact.

heck, i was a convert, and already had such a hard time - and i'm not a muslim, so i very much find it difficult to believe that muslim converts have no problems at all.

there are all kinds of alternating views out there.

-_sky_- SG

i do not understand what gives ppl rights to stone someone to death just because of difference in beliefs and values...no religion should ever have such "threats" to their believers if there is faith in itself..i personally feel religion is a choice and to TS, have faith in your own decisions. The road ahead of you may be tough due to your family having strict religious believes but i think you should live a life of no regrets, making decisions and dont look back i'm a free thinker btw. Peace.

stupidissmart SG

no religion should ever have such "threats" to their believers if there is faith in itself..

U will be surprised tat a lot of establish religions do explicitly mention a harsh penalty to people who converted away at some point in their scriptures

EarlNeo SG

U will be surprised tat a lot of establish religions do explicitly mention a harsh penalty to people who converted away at some point in their scriptures

kinda hard to tell a cult from religions these day....

they seem to operate with the same rules...

and are getting shitty rich at the same time....

Fantagf SG

kinda hard to tell a cult from religions these day....

they seem to operate with the same rules...

and are getting shitty rich at the same time....

Gabriella SG

Well but if the religion's scripture says so, and you belong to that religion, how are you to deny that? i.e. its your insignificant sense of human morality VS the word of a frightening God.

I believe violent and inhumane scriptures in religion should be weeded out and censored, and religion should be modified and upgraded to comply with modern-day ethics so that even those literalists who want to do 100% what their religion tells them too wouldn't have to bomb anybody by following their religion like sheeps.

Come to think of it, should religious teachings be forced to be compliant with international human-rights laws, and local laws, or otherwise they'd be banned from their "religion" status? That religious leades have the role to ensure that inhumane teachings/scriptures should be openly denounced and detered to their sheeps, instead of guiding them towards hatred.

stupidissmart SG

kinda hard to tell a cult from religions these day....

they seem to operate with the same rules...

and are getting shitty rich at the same time....

is easy to tell u know

If it make it easer for the gov to control the country with tis new belief, it is religion. If it makes it harder, it is cult.

Hallaboy SG

if anyone here is here to help. i'd reckon noone can. Cause every single existing individual is biased in their words. So, if you think you're the one thats going to put out this flame, i suggest you think twice. Mods should lock this thread, its getting to bizzare.

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