Illegal to use fog lights in Singapore

last SG · 2007-03-14T17:06:37+00:00

Hi 5 LazerLordz..haha..i agree that HID is definitely here to stay and that we have to get used to it, that's all..halogen was also irritating last time when...

Mitsubishi hater SG

my headlight super bright le..and i like it.

Theatre Of Dreams SG

you know what you're talking about?

alleggerita SG

Of cuz I know what I'm talking about..I guess you are the one that doesn't understand what I'm saying? Haha..I'm simply saying using the foglights in Singapore is illegal, as LTA has stated it..And I'm just saying some Singaporeans have a bad habit of switching on all their headlights and foglamps the moment they hop into the car, regardless of whether is it in daylight or at night..The HID lights I'm talking about is just a sub topic.. Smile

Theatre Of Dreams SG

LTA: "Fog lamps can only be used during heavy downpours or in hazy conditions." Is this misleadingly 'definitely illegal'?

And since when were fog lamps brighter than head lamps? Maybe I'm too ignorant to know of such fog lamps. Or do you mean spot lamps?

Tayysj SG

March 11 article on this issue with official statement from LTA:

http://cars.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=241781

freakass SG

Erm... actually he's right... did u read the official newspaper article on this issue? The LTA spokeman said tht the reason for making it illegal to switch on your fog lights under normal conditions is because it is brighter than the headlights and they will affect other drivers...

However, i do understand why you feel that fog lights are not brighter than headlights... this is because, most of the car drivers who turn their fog lights on are the cheapo car owners... these cars do not have strong fog lights... you should take a look at the fog lights of a european car...

freakass SG

Anyway, if you guys have the time, just take the bus, take a stroll or drive down the road at night.... you still see countless of cars with their fog lights on... some are worse... they have their fog lights on BUT their headlights are off Shocked

tomsss SG

kinda contradicting.... LTA say cannot use fog lamp, yet we see so many road users abusing it... many unknowingly (majority i believe are cars with factory fitted fog lamps).

but i know one thing is for sure... those spot lamp type, like this Mini Cooper for example:

these need to be covered... either supplied with the product or just paste some sticker over it. just FYI, Mini Cooper's spotlamps are only activated with the highbeam. Wink

FLameEvil SG

first of all, fog light is not brighter if not same brightness than headlights

secondly, HIDs is more irritating and distracting than fog lights

Lex818 SG

I tot fog lights [the stock ones... not aftermarket] point downwards and a steeper angle than the normal lights??? doesnt it den mean that it would just confuse another driver of the distance rather than it being 2 bright? Confused

Another thing... ive tried it wen driving on Sydney roads at nite b4... quite cool 2 look at..

When u hit ur lights, there r 2 stages, 1 to turn ur dash on and another time to actually turn ur headlights on... Just do the first time and ur headlights should be on dim. Then hit ur fog lights... they should come on. Then off driving u go. Cool

Lex {+.+}

Theatre Of Dreams SG

I know. What I mean is, there's a difference between "illegal to use it discriminately" and "definitely illegal to use". It's like banning smoking all-place all-time.

Like what Lex818 has pointed out, and also if you read the official newspaper article on this issue, fog lamps are designed to point downward to make road markings more visible. Hence I doubt that they're bright enough to cause glare. But still, the overkill of having 4 lamps switched on can be still distracting which is why they are banned. The other reason I can think of is that too many lamps switched on break the outline of the car at night, so it's harder to gauge the distance on how far away it is.

Or maybe, LTA's primary purpose is to ban the more irritating rear fog lamps, and so they standardise by banning all fog lamps in clear weather.

bmx_rider SG

Fog light is legal to use in cars but it is illegal to on the fog light wen the weather is clear…if bad weather like heavy rain or haze, den can on it…

alleggerita SG

Oh..haha..sorry for the confusion there..Let me correct myself..it is DEFINITELY ILLEGAL to use the foglamps when the weather is clear..only when there's fog or heavy rain, then can switch it on..lol..real sorry about that..haha.. Laughing

alleggerita SG

Then it depends..on certain cars, the foglamps are made to be brighter than the headlights, so it can assist the driver more in a fog or heavy rain..

And yes, the HID lights are bright, but they are also made to point at the ground instead of in the air, so if you don't look directly into the headlights, you won't get blinded..the only reason why people find it irritating is when they accidentally looked straight at the HID headlights..don't look, and you won't get irritated or distracted..the rear-view mirror in the car has a anti-glare function for night use, use it..or on some continental cars, it's even better..they have auto-dimming rear-view mirror.. Mr. Green

photo_seeker SG

Actually I was glad that there is an official release regarding the use of fog light in Singapore in clear weather because being a pedestrian myself, it is very irritating and blinding to be shone by a fog light or HID lamp

alwaysdisturbed SG

thats for fog lamps.

its time they say something about HID lamps.

alwaysdisturbed SG

with fog lamps, a mini has 6 light source!

alleggerita SG

The extra 2 foglamps on the front grille of the Mini is really a tad overkill..haha..it's really unnecessary..and it's LTA rule that the owner has to cover up the extra two foglamps on the front grille, otherwise it's against the law..lol..

But the thing about HID lights..there is absolutely nothing the LTA can do..give it another 10-15 years time and every single new car produced will come with HID lights as standard..so LTA cant possibly set a rule saying all HID equipped cars cannot be imported into Singapore..so those cars that come to Singapore might as well come without headlights at all since our street lights so bright liao..lol..so there's no choice but to slowly train ourselves to get use to the extremely bright HID lights.. Mr. Green

alwaysdisturbed SG

then we'll have 100% population qualified to wear glasses!

R34Skyliner SG

The cefiro 230JM comes with xenon headlights or conventional one ? Cuz my father says its Xenon.And is it illegal to flash Hazard lights while driving at 60 km/h during stormy weather with all your lights turn on to the max?

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