North Korea Rocket Launch Fails

last SG · 2012-04-14T14:13:32+00:00

I rather everyone stop funnneling aid to the North Korean govtstarve it of cash, partssee how long it can continue with its tyrannical wayshttp://www.youtub...

Dalforce 1941 SG

On the other hand, a hugely embarassed North Korea might just launch an attack on South Korea

and which will eventually lead to defeat and more humiliation

I rather they attack the U.S then South Korea.

Mr Milo SG

Lolz

with the equipment North Korea has, its armed forces will be totally wiped out while e in transit

Mr Milo SG

and i favour the South having its cruise missile, deployed against all threats. any more provocations and one of their military installations will be gone

one provocation, one is gone

Mr Milo SG

and i favour the South having its cruise missile, deployed against all threats. any more provocations and one of their military installations will be gone

one provocation, one is gone

Dalforce 1941 SG

An old paper on North Korean war strategy against the U.S, interesting read:

North Korea's War Strategy of Massive Retaliations against US Attacks

North Korea has not only the military power but also the political will to wage total war against the United States.

1. North Korea Can Engage the US in Total War

North Korea is one of the few nations that can engage in a total war with the United States.

The US war planners recognize this fact. For example, on March 7, 2000, Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, the US commander in Korea at the time, testified at a US congressional hearing that "North Korea is the country most likely to involve the United States in a large-scale war."

North Korea, which can and is willing to face up to the sole military superpower of the world, cannot be called a weak nation. Nevertheless, Western press and analysts distort the truth and depict North Korea as an "impoverished" nation, starving and on the brink of imminent collapse. An impoverished, starving nation cannot face down a military superpower. Today few nations have military assets strong enough to challenge the US military. Russia, though weakened by the collapse of the Soviet Union, has enough assets to face up to the US. China, somewhat weaker than Russia, too, has strong military that can challenge the US. However, both Russia and China lack the political will to face down the US.

In contrast, North Korea has not only the military power but also the political will to wage total war against the United States. North Korea has made it clear that it will strike all US targets with all means, if the US mounted military attacks on North Korea. That North Korea's threat is no bluff can be seen from the aggressive actions taken by North Korea since the Korean War armistice, most recent of which is North Korea's attempt to capture an American spy plane.

In the morning of March 1, 2003, an American RC-132S spy plane, Cobra Ball, took off from a US airbase in Okinawa, and cruised along the East coast of North Korea collecting electronic signals. The US intelligence suspected that North Korea was about to test a long-range missile and the plane was there to monitor the suspected missile launch.

When the US plane reached a point about 193 km from the coast of North Korea, two MiG-29 and two MiG-21 fighter planes showed up unexpectedly. The North Korean planes approached within 16 m and signaled the US plane to follow them. The US pilot refused to follow the command and left the scene posthaste. The US plane was tailed by the hostiles for about 22 min but let the US spy plane go. There are two key points to be observed here.

First, the hostile planes waited for the US plane at the Uhrang airbase, located about 200 km from the point of air encounter. They knew that the US plane was coming. The North Korean planes flew 200 km to intercept the US plane. Did the US plane see them coming? If it did, why no evasive action? After intercepting the US plane, the hostile planes dogged it for 22 min. Why no American planes for the rescue? The US crew must have informed the base of the danger they were in, but no action was taken by the base. If Kim Jong Il had given the command, the MiGs would have shot down the US plane and returned to their base before the US could have scrambled war planes.

Second, North Korea intercepted an American spy plane flying 200 km from its coast. According to the international norm, a nation's territorial air space extends 19 km from its coast line. The US is the exception and claims air space of 370 km from its coast line; any foreign airplane violating this extended air space is challenged or shot down by the US military.

North Korea's war plan in case of an US attack is total war, not the 'low-intensity limited warfare' or 'regional conflict' talked about among the Western analysts. North Korea will mount a total war if attacked by the US. There are three aspects to this war plan.

First, total war is North Korea's avowed strategy in case of US preemptive attacks. The US war on Iraq shows that the US can and will mount preemptive strikes in clear violation of international laws, and the United Nations is powerless to stop the US. Any nation that is weak militarily may be attacked by the US at will. It is reasonable for North Korea to deter US attacks with threats of total war...

i) Artillery

North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours.

The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hours...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3099.htm

If U.S dares to launch a war against North Korea like it did against Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, I think North Korea will have no choice but to mount a total war of massive retaliation against the U.S.

Mr Milo SG

Bring it on then, North Korea

Whatever they got, the US will bomb the shit out of them

Dalforce 1941 SG

Bring it on then, North Korea

Whatever they got, the US will bomb the shit out of them

If U.S bombs the shit out of North Korea as it did in last korean war, I hope North Korea can wipe out completely the entire U.S west coast.

Save China and others the trouble.

Without even using such “novel weapons” - although napalm was very new - the air war levelled North Korea and killed millions of civilians. North Koreans tell you that for three years they faced a daily threat of being burned with napalm: “You couldn’t escape it,” one told me in 1981. By 1952 just about everything in northern and central Korea had been completely levelled. What was left of the population survived in caves.

Over the course of the war, Conrad Crane wrote, the US air force “had wreaked terrible destruction all across North Korea. Bomb damage assessment at the armistice revealed that 18 of 22 major cities had been at least half obliterated.” A table he provided showed that the big industrial cities of Hamhung and Hungnam were 80-85% destroyed, Sariwon 95%, Sinanju 100%, the port of Chinnampo 80% and Pyongyang 75%. A British reporter described one of the thousands of obliterated villages as “a low, wide mound of violet ashes”. General William Dean, who was captured after the battle of Taejon in July 1950 and taken to the North, later said that most of the towns and villages he saw were just “rubble or snowy open spaces”. Just about every Korean he met, Dean wrote, had had a relative killed in a bombing raid (17). Even Winston Churchill, late in the war, was moved to tell Washington that when napalm was invented, no one contemplated that it would be “splashed” all over a civilian population (18).

This was Korea, “the limited war”. The views of its architect, Curtis LeMay, serve as its epitaph. After it started, he said: “We slipped a note kind of under the door into the Pentagon and said let us go up there . . . and burn down five of the biggest towns in North Korea - and they’re not very big - and that ought to stop it. Well, the answer to that was four or five screams - ‘You’ll kill a lot of non-combatants’ and ‘It’s too horrible’. Yet over a period of three years or so . . . we burned down every town in North Korea and South Korea, too . . . Now, over a period of three years this is palatable, but to kill a few people to stop this from happening - a lot of people can’t stomach it” (19).

http://mondediplo.com/2004/12/08korea

Mr Milo SG

oh, i meant destroying the armed forces, not civilians

Summer hill SG

oh, i meant destroying the armed forces, not civilians

yup, civilians are innocent.

Mr Milo SG

and i suppose the US has some new toys they want to test out in the battlefield, so, if a war breaks out, they will have the excuse to do so

Dalforce 1941 SG

2:43PM BST 25 Apr 2012

By Andrew Salmon in Seoul

Vice-marshal Ri Yong-ho, Chief of the General staff, speaking at a meeting to mark the 80th anniversary of the army's founding, added that they would "cut the throats" of anyone who defamed North Korean leaders.

"The Korean People's Army is armed with powerful modern weapons ... that can defeat the [(US] imperialists at a single blow," he said at the meeting which was attended by new leader Kim Jong-un.

It was unclear what weapon Vice-marshal Ri was referring to, but following the high-profile failure of a rocket launch earlier this month, North Korea is believed to be preparing its third nuclear test. On Monday, Pyongyang warned it was planning special operations against the South Korean government.

Dan Pinkston, who heads the International Crisis Group's Seoul office: "I think it is bluster, it is kind of absurd. The US has robust second-strike capabilities, if they had a war with the US, they would cease to exist."

Siegfried Hecker of the Centre for International Security and Cooperation, said North Korea has enough plutonium for about four to eight "simple" bombs, but does not yet appear to have the ability to make bombs small enough to mount on a missile.

A previously unseen missile was showcased at a parade earlier this month, and Kim Myung-chol, a North Korea apologist who has visited the state's missile units, claims that Pyongyang has munitions that can disable all electronics, potentially paralysing US forces.

Leon Panetta, the US Defence Secretary, has previously warned North Korea not to engage in further provocation.

North Korea's armed forces are formidable. They wield nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, and being 1.2 million-strong, outnumber the combined South Korean – 650,000 – and US forces in Korea – 28,500.

One group of men intimate with the horror of war in Korea are British Korean War veterans visiting the country at the invitation of the South Korean government.

Today, they commemorate the Battle of the Imjin River, the bloodiest action fought by British soldiers since 1945. More Britons died in the 1950-53 Korean War than fell in the Falklands, Iraq and Afghan conflicts combined.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9226312/North-Korea-boasts-of-defeating-US-with-single-blow.html

Mr Milo SG

Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The cow horn blow until so big

Mr Milo SG

unless they have this weapon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVwQEGBWNm4

troublemaker2005 SG

where got fail 1? they don;t dare to fire lah

expect us to believe this shit meh? fuck this shit lah. the world is waiting for a chance to launch a war. if your firing works its a chacne for US to launch a counter attack

why not point to cheena, they sure don't dare also. later the china wage war against them - then we can see how good the cheena force claims to be

Mr Milo SG

maybe china has this as a secret weapon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOgLnh_IsI

^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~ SG

It’s true

NK ppl can blow down cows~~

Mr Milo SG

maybe 1 million of pcc will flood the entire Korean Peninsula

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