Hanagata SG relax bro dun need to flare up for this type of idiot, they can't be bother to read what you posted. let them be
sunnytv SG Odex sucks after reading this articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odex Odex was trying to earn money by riding on the success of the anime fanbase in Singapore. Odex website has not been updated for many years, generally causing people to believe that Odex does not care for its fans. His website is under construction. It is his own fault sale drop, not because of illegal downloading. Should blame himself. It make more people hate him. Sale will drop further.
Vigelic SG legally, what's wrong with downloading? we're not the ones who sit in japan with a recorder and record from japan tv. we're not the ones who subtitled it. we're not the ones who distributed it. we're not the ones who host it online for pple to download. in other words, its in public domain wad. its there, we see it, we download it - how is this illegal? watching on youtube also not illegal wad. its up to japan's tv networks and youtube to take it down wad. not our fault if its there for us to see. i nv download but if he send me letter to pay the $3000 to $5000 i'd rather fight with him in court. why all the pple so .... to settle out of court and pay him the money? can someone tell me why is this illegal?
Vigelic SG oh and FI I STILL HATE U! Why is this topic not locked?! TELL ME WHY IS THERE FAVOURITISM? WHY SO BIASED and UNFAIR?
Vigelic SG *nods* i agree. why are they suddenly the anime download police. shldn't it be hand over to police to investigate? nobody steal from them wad. newspaper nv report how they get the court order leh. stupid odex. and [biased] FI.
FireAndHell SG I doubt very much Odex boss won't earn a cent....... Let's see ..... Number of Alleged Stubhub subscribers who were reported to be going to be sued for payment of $5000 each numbers 1000. $5000 x 1000 = $5,000,000 $5,000,000 BIG ONES!! That's a hell lotta cash. He gonna milk these poor souls for their cash!! After paying up items #1-#5, he may still rake in at least a MILLION BIG ONES!! And this is only from Strarhub subscribers!! What about from Singtel and PacNet?? heheheh... CASH COW INDEED!!!!!!!!
EarlNeo SG What if all those ppl dun pay and decided to drag it out to court and fight it out? After reading this link : http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_148784.html If what it stated is indeed true, why dun we fan of anime group together and pool a certain amount of $$$ (by donation) to some of those poor soul being issue the letter for them to fight out the case in court. If more then one of us are willing to fight it out in court, I believe the sheer amount of court case bills that odex have to fight will eventually bankrupt them. After all, without their 3k or 5k profit from each of their letter issue, they now have to pay for both the law suit and their so call anime crack down fees. If starhub are charging them for revealing 1000 IP detail. I am sure gathering evidences through searching 1000 household isnt really going to be easy nor cheap. The amount of fees and effort for count search warrant, etc will going to cost them a bomb. But if they are going to juz sue a few of them, we will know at least where the law stand. After all the strength of many out weight the power of one. Is there any lawyer here to clarify in this issue?
Lin Yu SG just like the Horizon Tower case. the idea that the develper is going to sue them $1b will frighten many away. given that Odex may not lose the case, the law fees will be borne by the individual Big fish eats small fish and small fish eat the shrimp
sirAdrian SG My fren, pls read the copyright law b4 u post. Watching anime from U tube i dunno is it illegal a not, if u got the letter by watching at U-tube pls tell us.
parn SG Why are they so silly? It's fan-subs afterall right? So technically people record those anime from FREE tv broadcast in japan and then translate them into subtitles to share it. Therefore, they can't sue those people who downloaded fan-subs cos those people do not know it's illegal to do so. I mean put it this way, if you happened to record a mediacorp show and then put in your own subtitles and share it with your friends overseas...does that means mediacorp will sue you for it? Can they do that? Frankly speaking, if nobody made any profits out of this fan-sub issue...there is no case at all. At the most once the person received such a letter make sure that they removed all traces of those "illegal" (to Odex) animes from their premises immediately, Odex might ended up paying more for the court proceedings than the accused (Cos it's easy to claim that the accused wasn't aware that fan-subbing isn't legal in Singapore and wasn't using it to make any personal gain out of it. Moreover, the accused has realised that it was against the beneficial of Odex...therefore had all "illegal" fan-subs removed from his premises upon the awareness from Odex). If everyone do that, Odex also cannot do anything but they will need to face the fact that the public will be silently boycotting all their products. It's normal in Singapore and it's called politics.
jay_rocks SG oi close thread la. and btw, xephone has been siding up with odex anw. no pt arguing with him.
sg mata SG if i kena caught, i rather go jail.....i no $$$ to pay fine.....if got $$$, i would haf already bought the anime dvds instead of dlding mah.......
Rika Ishikawa SG Those license anime r illegally to dl cos it not free 4 all liao. the license holder can sue de. u can dl those anime which have not been license or dl anime be4 it licensed r consider legal. But bear in mind that other country dun license some of the anime does not mean sg dun oso. Any thing that is under copyright by lawr consider that dling free from net or distribute arnd r illegally and u sure get sue.
parn SG What if the public wasn't aware of all this? Everyday people don't spend their lives monitoring the latest laws passed in Singapore you know.... Is it possible to place the blame on the distributors for not bringing the awareness to the public...and deliberately setting up a commercial trap within the judical system for the public?
Rika Ishikawa SG TO ALL FORUMER PLS DUN BOYCOTT ODEX! Cos wat if they see anime sale decline and decide to change direction and import jap dramas then be4 they start saleing and license all drama then start to catch those drama dler and fine them i dun want to get caught and next time cannot dl drama le. already can't dl anime pls dun make drama oso
