Odex Seeking Compensation From Anime Downloaders

last SG · 2007-08-16T21:30:31+00:00

Odex sucks after reading this articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odex Odex was trying to earn money by riding on the success of the anime fanbase in Si...

parn SG

BOYCOTT ODEX!!! (Sue your own countrymen = knnbccb)

BOYCOTT XEDO!!! (Just in case they changed their name to counter-cheat the public again)

Ask them to sue their own employee's children too, cos they too must have downloaded some "illegal" animes.

Ayukat SG

Jipoon there got 1 law say after broadcasted on TV can be distributed for circulating like videotape like that...

Dunno where lah, u all go dig...

If like that dunno y we cannot download...

FireAndHell SG

Well...yeah......the alleged subscribers can gang up, get funds and fight it out with Odex in court.

There can be only ONE winner........so......they had better get proper advise to weigh their chances of winning the court battle.

You see.....lawyers being lawyers, they will always tell you that you can win your case or have a fighting chance to win, against the complainent [Odex in this case]. Win or lose, lawyers still get paid. [Defending lawyers looking at their clients as Cash Cows too....hmmmm....perhaps..heheheh]

If the alleged subscribers [ie the defending team] lose the court case.....they will have more than just having to pay up the initial $5000.00 demanded. They will also end up paying the court fees, conplainent [ie Odex] lawyers fees, and their lawyers' fees!!

That's gonna cost more than the $5k demanded from each alleged downloaders.

And what about Odex?? No extra cash outlay. Cause, Odex's lawyers fees for the court case will be paid by the losing defence team [ie alleged subscribers]. End of the day......Odex boss still get to bring home the bacon.....heheheh.

Unless...........Odex.......slip up and lose the court case......!!

dookies SG

i tink we shld stop downloading for the time being, then start when u get a high speed wifi card, use a proxy, then change ur IP address, sit somewhere and start ur torrents and hog the bandwidth

Vigelic SG

technically there is no diff between watching on youtube and downloading because everytime u watch a youtube clip, the clip is downloaded to you comp as an FLV file anyway. everything u see on the internet has to be downloaded - including that sgforums logo at the top left of your screen right now.

and i have some basic knowledge of the copyright law.. but this is a little too complicated since it spans from the creators in japan and the japan tv networks to the end users in singapore.. but my point is the anime that "we" download is not odex's version.. it's fansub from japan.. so technically is nothing to do with odex wad.. shld be the japan tv networks sueing wad..

LazerLordz SG

Under Japanese law, there is scope allowed for redistribution of a work that has already been broadcast free-to-air, provided that it is non-profit and not meant for commercial purpose.

Agenda SG

if im not wrong, xphenon is not siding with odex.. he got the letter and his mother had to bear the consequences..

you could do better by listening to him instead of flaming his arse off..

talk all you want about the local anime lovers uniting.. but its typical singaporeans to only NATO..

if the anime community actually unite to save their own kind, spider pig will destroy odex and put stephen sing into bankruptcy

but sadly, that will never be the case.. so, don't be cheap.. import from overseas, pay for crunchyroll @ potentially less than $0.50 per anime instead of your claimed "I won't pay $3 for 1 anime episode"

so 50c not too much right?

wishboy SG

if can send to my house then i buy Very Happy
the design quite nice
at first i tot he was just joking but after i read the whole post then i Shocked

found something on HWZ forum
XEDO Holocaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3nztQHSlX0

MyPillowTalks SG

http://sgcafe.com/showthread.php?t=36607

wonderamazement SG

Me, buying the 2nd one... Laughing

stellazio SG

woo.. this is a good point.

LazerLordz SG

Don't get your hopes up high yet, because the scope for interpretation is quite grey in Japan as well. It is not a concrete provision.

Vigelic SG

but it does mean that downloaders are not ENTIRELY in the wrong. in fact, they are quite innocent - the only problem here is that those who have been served the letter choose to settle with ODEX thru the payment of $3,000 to $5,000 without going to court to fight for their rights which may end up costing more or less depends on who wins..

as usual i guess pple just want less trouble..

ArdusKane SG

The problem is that (most) shows from Mediacorp cannot compare to anime. Laughing

In the end, it's all about the money. It's human nature to act only when they have something to gain.

DjMatrix SG

seriiously ppl at hwz need some serious help in the head regarding this fiasco, they are even making anti odex tees lol

mochou SG

The problem is downloading these anime is a crime that's "too easy to commit"

You do it at home, anytime, no one will stop you from doing so, and you know that for the past years many ppl are downloading these anime for free. Maybe you also alraedy make it a habbit to download new episode every week. So ppl are easily tempted to download them, and some even think that it should be legal to download.

Battlecrusier SG

ya x1000000000

mr_sotong SG

money make the world spin.. Laughing

chech01 SG

Do you think the money gained from the lawsuit are paid to the copyright holders?

I can see a few millions will be collected - assuming all did not go to the lawyers - and wonder if this is paid to the people who created the anime.

Cheers

Shotgun SG

I'm sorry, whats so "illegal" about downloading anime again?

As long as the copyright holders in Japan are not the ones requesting Odex to take action, I don't see what justification there is for Odex to be so kaypoh.

Even if the anime someone download is also distributed by Odex, as long as its not THEIR Sub, not their work, I don't see how wrong it is. Say, for example, ODEX subs XXX anime into english for distribution.

1. Is someone who downloads XXX anime subbed in Spanish liable to compensate Odex?

2. Is someone who downloads XXX anime subbed in English, and thinks he PREFERS eg Shinsen-Sub cos they have better English than ODEX distributed Subs wrong?

So where is the right for a consumer to exercise his right? I can choose based on pricing, and quality. In terms of pricing (which happens to be FREE...) and quality, if OTHER fansubs are better in my opinion, then its just too frickin bad for ODEX.

However, if lets say the copyright owners in Japan, have already stated that they do not wish their anime to be distributed on the net anymore, I think as anime fans, we should respect their decision. Some have done so, some have not.

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