Oz waste $ to probe HMS Sydney sinking in WW 2

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

People will wanna know what happened, especially the bloodlines of the sailors involved. Guess people in Aus, US, etc this "My family fought for country" thing that can be seen frm their hollywood movies. They'll hold it dear to their heart, they'll wanna know how their grandfather/great grandfather contributed and what killed them.

Don't bother reasoning with him.

If Australia does this... then it is a waste of resources.

If Singapore does this... then he'll say it's a good thing that shows the government cares.

Of course, he fails to account for the extensive cost, energy and amount of effort spent by our military in organizing something like National Day year after year after year when we have many systemic issues that are still not fixed.

lionnoisy SG

There are many serious and urgent issues to be solved in Oz defense.

Spending limited resources to probe HMS Sydney iso solving the more pressing problems , is against principal of management.Probing HMS Sydney is important but not urgent

Defending Oz ,being Urgent and important, is the no.1 priority.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Originally posted by noisylion:

There are many serious and urgent issues to be solved in Sg defense.

Spending limited resources to do national day iso solving the more pressing problems like soldier steal rifles from camp, accidents in training, and terrorist leader escape, is against principal of management.National Day is important but not urgent

Defending Sg ,being Urgent and important, is the no.1 priority.

eagle SG

Let's see... when I was in NS, I was one of those who were tasked to hammer little wooden boards in sec schs in rows and columns so that the little kids can practise performing

Also, being in the BRC, I have seen many military bike related incidents and accidents... Just the training course alone, those who took with me (totalled around 20+), 2 went OOC because of heavy injuries sustained, with one person having broken his arm (can see bone jutting out) and one having fractured his leg.

And also, just by carrying the field pack of all the equipments and walking super long distance, a number of my fellow mates had injured their lower back till they have to downgrade, some had their knees worn out too.

Not to mention finally that my POW training course was the course just before the one that killed that Sgt...

Of course, these do not cost much waste and delay. The best compensation that SAF can give to these people is a downgrade from active duty. How much does that cost?

lionnoisy SG

U may be so amazing how fast Oz decided to buy F 18 in 2007.

Though the process become laughing stock in Western defense circles.

Wat Oz done ,like they did in Collins sub purchase.

This is probably the ultimate lesson of the Collins submarine program. Nothing will be done to avoid a recurrence of problems in future major defence procurement programs, similar to those that have affected the submarines, unless the past of the Collins program is examined and the lessons learned. The most effective way to reduce the consequences of poor Defence procurement lies in much earlier intervention by policymakers in the development of defence equipment projects. To play its role in this process the Parliament will need to invent new procedures.

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rp/2001-02/02RP03.htm

2.History just repeat itself.The decision makers just decide the F18,without

consulting the Oz Air Force!!

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Originally posted by noisylion:

U may be so amazing how fast Sg security fail again and again in 2007 and 2008.

Though the process become laughing stock in Western defense circles.

Wat Sg done ,like they did in SAR 21 rifle stolen with bullets from camp, hours taken to inform public.

Teo, whose case is pending, went absent without leave from Mandai Hill Camp on Sept 2 when he took the SAR-21 and five rounds of ammunition.

He went home and retrieved three more rounds he had earlier stolen and loaded them into the magazine. He left home with the rifle in a bag and checked into Champagne Hotel in Lorong 16 Geylang the next day.

http://alvinology.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/who-is-ong-boon-jun/

2.History just repeat itself.A terrorist leader once again escape and hours taken before

consulting and telling the Sg public!!

lionnoisy SG

there are more pressing issues to be solves than probing HMS Sydney:

the whole fleet of Armidale Class Patrol Boats
has to be docked again!

posted Feb 2007

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/235530

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/245201

Lack of 30% hands strands (Aussie) navy subs

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/239903

4.OZ FFG cannot go to war

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/301659

without this naval platform designed for ANZAC frigate,

How can oz to protect'' navy's Anzac class frigates?

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/anzac/

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/309931

6.M113 upgrade took more than 10 years....

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Originally posted by noisylion:

there are more pressing issues to be solves than doing national day:

the idea suggest of making SAF soldier fight urban warfare with inline skate, laughing stock of sgforums!

posted Mar 2007

http://sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/310722

Someone say Mandai UAF is equal to Cheyenne Mountain and can stand 30 megaton when only rated for 250 tons

http://sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/310203

Lack of good common sense make UAV use for wrong purpose, such as carsh into targets

http://sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/306926

4.SAF soldiers trained wrongly to run for life holding rifle by handle

SAF soldier taught by lionnoisy that best feature of SAR is to hold by handle wit 1 hand n run 4 life! in real life this will kill them!

http://sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/310955

with all this happening, despite millions spend on securities

How can SG to protect'' anything?

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/03/11/reviewing-mas-selamat%E2%80%99s-escape/

6.AMX-13 upgrade took more than 20 years many failure, majority of NS man armour crew not trained in new leopard 2....

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