Brunei

last SG · 2006-07-08T03:05:32+00:00

I thought since we are all ASEAN nation, we are obligated to help if ASEAN country need help?

LazerLordz SG

I would defend her because I have ties to the place.

But I believe that we do have some sort of agreement in place, can't remember where I read it. Drawn up in the 1960s..

mhcampboy SG

How can that be? Brunei gained her independence from the British only at 1981. Why would Singapore drew and signed an agreement to protect a British vassal?
And thus, Brunei wasnt part of Asean at that time.

I agree with you. I will protect Brunei too if need be. I have an affinity to the place... Laughing

laurence82 SG

actually hor

what campy talking about?

Confused

mhcampboy SG

Mad Mad

*kicks ah lau*

laurence82 SG

Oh i see what is the issue now

From what I know, ASEAN isnt a defence co-operation entity, FPDA is.

So we are not obligated technically, but morally, as we all desire peace in this part of the world, I think we should

laurence82 SG

I dont think they have this capability

Should be US Marines and Navy, or the neighbouring nations

lwflee SG

The British Have troops there as well.

mhcampboy SG

technically yes. but its the gurkha contingent actually. they are guarding the kins there...

tripwire SG

yes... there are some sort of agreedment in place...

even if there is non.. would singapore allow brunei.. a country whose currency is linked to singapore dollar to get hit?

anyone with a pinch of brain would understand that due to the economic and currency link between singapore and brunei.. an attack on brunei is equivalent to a direct assualt on singapore economy and monetary system...

i doubt it would go unanswered... agreedment or no agreedment...

tripwire SG

the british do not control everything in brunei... the brunei govt does possess significant autonomy and self rule even before independence.

tripwire SG

FPDA is a consultative framework... its not a binding security treaty... if malaysia burns tomolo... we can choose to sit across the johore river and drink tea while enjoying the firework..

mhcampboy SG

I agree. and i also will beg to differ.

Why would Brunei be signing an agreement of protecting each other in times of war with Singapore?

The British are the ones who is protecting Brunei with Britain own armed forces.

And Brunei undertook a defence agreement while the defence policy is under the British?

I agree certain autonomy was granted...but defence is not one of them.

tankee1981 SG

Originally posted by tripwire
yes... there are some sort of agreedment in place...

even if there is non.. would singapore allow brunei.. a country whose currency is linked to singapore dollar to get hit?

anyone with a pinch of brain would understand that due to the economic and currency link between singapore and brunei.. an attack on brunei is equivalent to a direct assualt on singapore economy and monetary system...

i doubt it would go unanswered... agreedment or no agreedment...

Actually i agree with the part where Singapore will definitely help Brunei should it is being threatened, as this is what i have originally suspected. And this is not due to the fact that we are members of ASEAN.

We as a developed nation have an unspoken 'oligation' to help countries in our region when there are in need such as when natural diaster strikes. But we need not do so if we chose not to as there is no legal oligation to do so. A military invasion is also the same it doesn't mean that a fellow ASEAN country is being invaded we have the responsibility to help. This is because ASEAN is not like NATO.

I started this thread to find out whether we have any legal obligation to come to Brunei's aid through signing of some treaty or agreement, which i am not aware of. Very Happy

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