What is illegal downloading?

last SG · 2006-10-14T21:37:43+00:00

illegal downloading means...to download a file (both copyright or non-copyright protected) through another person's computer without his or her permission.

SpecOps87 SG

Honestly...I feel that this idea actually makes more sense. You everything wannna tax and clamp down on...think what? Singapore is Alcatraz ah?

zanza SG

For those who don't use P2P like torrent clients, let me tell you why it is so attractive.

You can get anything from OS systems to latest movies to latest version of softwares to games through P2P. Not only music.

Canada's government deals with this P2P problem very well.

In Canada, you can download anything you like. The government charge extra money for storage devices like harddisk or CD-R.

For example, a 2GB iPod will cost roughtly S$10 more in Canada.

The extra money the Gov collected will be given to those records company or software manufactures.

If only Singapore Gov would implement such a system, i'll be a happy man Very Happy

SpecOps87 SG

I think SG govt. won't...if they do...you think they charge $10 more nia mehz?They will say $10 for the recording companies + $8 for the paper work + $6 for hiring additional manpower + $4 for the govt. to negotiate with the recording companies+$2 for the government to drink coffee after negotiating and last but not least 5% GST!!! Total...you pay $30 more with additional 5% GST!!!

Y_Shun SG

We cannot download or send anythings, cause they are copyrighted to someone else or ourself. Surprised

chenc SG

lol true. But it is still cheaper on your part. Softwares can cost hundreds and DVD tens of dollars all saved.

But might be unfair to those who still don't download.

striderz_o405 SG

If you want to be a person who follows law by law...

Dont download MP3
Dont download programmes.
Dont even bother to have internet.
And must as well... DONT BOTHER TO HAVE A COMPUTER!

Laughing

Ponders SG

Anything you do that makes Police raid your house and 6 others is illegal.

ANyway,, illegal downloading is one that you download and constitutes breaking of the law.

So if downloading a song breaks the copyright of it, you are infringing copyrights, which is by law illegal.

You send thru MSN a song, also an infringement, also illegal.

XTransbus SG

hahaha. atleast more safe............

mikecola SG

its still illegal in canada too tho... that is just a small form of compensation for therecord companies and movie studios etc

davidche SG

is emule a p2p client?

Ito_^ SG

downloading of copyrighted materials that you have no rights with lor.. yes, yes. to protect intellectual property, very good law, juz dat we dun like it.

http://www.riaa.com/issues/piracy/default.asp

here.. try reading this.

LazerLordz SG

P2P is just another file-transfer program. It is not illegal, only the content is.

The local police are dumb as hell to think that P2P networks are illegal when corporations use them to link offices to share resources and also online stores are leveraging on P2P tech too.

d3sT1nY SG

Getting songs from Music Xchange leh..? Also illegal right..? Laughing

How come no police come catch us huh..? Razz

chenc SG

No la. Local police do not think P2P is illegal.

In Singapore, P2P is also legal, and like you say, its the content that matters

LazerLordz SG

then for goodness sake, someone slap the local 140th media for writing the article that insinuates that P2P tech is illegal in Singapore. Mad

scabstermooch SG

Actually, if we are talking about civil liabities, IIRC in australia the Kazaa network has recently been found liable for 'authorising infringement of copyright'.

No case in Singapore yet, but I think Sg usually errs on the side of commerce Smile

ndmmxiaomayi SG

As long as it breaks copyright laws, it is illegal downloading, whether or not you pay.

Things under copyright laws include softwares, music and videos.

Getting files from Limewire or any other P2P may or may not be illegal. If something distributed over P2P is under GNU General Public License aka GPL, it is legal. If you have a group of artists friends, who distribute THEIR OWN art work, music, etc, it is legal, unless they specify that it shouldn't go around the world.

Read the full GPL license here

Anything that states EULA or End User License Agreement means that the software is protected by copyright laws. If you download it via P2P, from anywhere where you can get it free, you are violating copyright laws and it will be illegal.

Sharing files over MSN is the same. So long as that piece of work is not under GPL, you break the laws.

Even if you pay for something, but that company is not authorized to distribute it, it is illegal as well. However, you are not to be blamed for it. The company who unauthorizely distributes such work is liable.

chenc SG

No la. Now almost every piece of software online has an EULA attached to them, which many of us just click through blindly when installing.

However, most freewares available online requires users to use P2P system to download the file, since it is cheaper than getting bandwith on the developers' part.

These freewares are legally free to distribute, yet still has a EULA

ndmmxiaomayi SG

A copyright is more than this. It grants EXCLUSIVE rights to the person who created it. Only that person (or that company) can reproduce, publish, distribute, etc.

It simply means that the author (or that company) has control over its commercial exploitation.

By downloading, you have broken the law because the author (or company) did not give you the rights to download it. By uploading it online or sharing it with a P2P, is even worse, since you don't have the rights to do so.

http://www.ipos.gov.sg/main/index.html

Go under About IP, select Copyright and Introduction.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Every piece of software indeed has an EULA, but if you read properly, some are distributed under GPL. It's stated as the EULA, since most people recognize it. You tell the public GPL, who the heck knows about GPL?

However, some softwares do publicly just state that this software is distributed under GPL and not the EULA.

As for freewares under EULA, it's because the owners don't want to grant rights to users to distribute them. You need to contact them for permission to give you the rights to distribute them.

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