Originally posted by dragonstar:
1. I did not say that 3 wasp stings are "a small red swelling". I
am saying that there are no way where every contigency can be
explictly catered for. Repeating the gist of my previous post,
sometimes even we don;t know what bit us that caused the swelling -
much less the person that was reported to.
2. I guess that you are probably right in that the officer can't
remember the specific problems with each of the soldier under his
charge.
3. What is "collapse"? Sometimes after exercise, I get so tired
that I am flat on my back. Is that collapse? My point is that
trainees need to be pushed to some extent - and I have no
definition for "extent". When a person [b]thinks that he
has reached his limit, it may not be his true limit. It all comes
back to a judgement call - and a judgement call can be right or
wrong depending on many factors. A person who can run 2.4 in 8
minutes in one day may die of heart failure trying to do 10 min
another day. Therefore, those responsible can only do their best.
I agree that there are some who will act like ass-holes,
but my believe is that most are just trying to do what they thing
is right.
4. I have already stated my opinion on medevac and coma. About
"different perspectives", I am not only referring to this specific
instance - it applies to the rest of your previous post.[/b]
Correct, you can't possible predict every contingency but 3 wasp
stings sounds a little too much. If the person is allergic to bee
stings, a single wasp sting is already enough to kill him.
After exercise you are flat on your back. But did you sit yourself
down & then lie on your back? Or did you just collapse as
though you fainted? During my first night of BMT (mind you, we were
just enlisted that afternoon), we were asked to run around the
parade square non stop. In the middle of the run, we would be
stopped every now & then to do push ups, sit ups, star jumps,
etc and then continue running.
Most of us were not very fit (being from the PTP batch) & were
certainly not used to this suddenly VERY vigorous exercise. I saw
with my own eyes several recruits collapse like flies. Some cynics
might say they purposely fell so they could "rest" for a
while.
Bullocks!! First of all, they didn't get to rest. If anyone fell,
the instructors would squat next to them, fark the recruit &
his parents & then drag the recruit up & force him to
continue. Secondly, I don't think they would purposely fall face
first. I saw some recruits collapse & when they hit the road,
it was SMACK face first. That has GOT to hurt & like I said, I
doubt anyone is dumb enough to do that on purpose.
When my buddy collapsed, he scrapped both elbows so badly that
blood was flowing down his arms. Not only was medical attention not
given, he was farked, told not to be a pussy & forced to
continue running. If anyone expects me to believe that my buddy did
that on purpose to "rest", I'll show him my middle finger.
Fitness have to be built up gradually. You run 2km first, then 5km,
then 10 km & eventually 20km. If you are unfit, you do NOT run
20km on your first day. That is asking for trouble. Similarly, what
happened to our batch was unacceptable. You do NOT subject recruits
to that kind of treatment. Not on their very first day of BMT. If
it was on the last week of BMT (pressumably most recruits are quite
fit by then), it might have been more acceptable.
