New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs (Part 3)

last SG · 2017-03-02T13:06:53+00:00

You're so happy ah for 381,Your predictions is almost true leh..Make me wonder if you're working for LTA?đ¤ I didn't expect 381 to go one big round via Soo...

azharjj SG

http://www.straitstimes.com/forum/letters-on-the-web/two-routes-for-same-bus-service-number

"I did not reach my destination of Woodlands Street 41 when I took bus service 912.

Subsequently, I discovered that this same service has two separate routes, serving both the eastern and western parts of Woodlands.

Looking at the route directory or the bus number, there is no way a customer can identify which route the bus will be plying.

I wrote to the Land Transport Authority (LTA) in July and received a reply confirming that "Service 912 is an intra-town feeder that serves both Woodlands Avenue 7 (eastern part of Woodlands Town) and Woodlands Centre Road (western part of Woodlands Town) areas".

The e-mail went on to explain that there are "separate boarding berths for the same service".

I replied to the LTA's e-mail, explaining that if the same service number is serving different routes, it confuses commuters.

A simple 912A and 912B would help commuters identify which bus to board."

Some pax just don't even bother checking the berth destination whether it goes to the East or West loop.. Even having 912A and 912B doesn't mean that this confusion will be entirely solved anyway..

actually the passenger still can reach the destination... just that it will do 2 loops (provided he/she didnt board 912E that day haha)

anyway, imagine he/she kena other intra-town/townlink services... confirm got complain

TIB429E SG

Service 912A and 912B to be introduced on 10 September 2017.

Service 912A will ply the Eastern Loop along Woodlands Drive 50, Ring Road and Admiralty MRT station, while Service 912B will ply the Western Loop along Woodlands Avenue 1, Street 41 and Woodlands Centre Road (Woodlands Train Checkpoint).

There will be no change in route for Intra-town Service 912 and variant Service 912M. Commuters travelling between the Eastern and Western loops can continue their journeys on Intra-town Service 912.

Service 912E will be scrapped?

BAD Move...

Some Svc912 residents in the West is already annoyed with the fact that it's hard to get 912 in the morning peak, especially those rushing for schools. And yet, they are increasing the frequency + adding timetable.

Would be better if they cut short sv912 route, to loop at St41 like 912M instead of heading towards checkpoint. Or increase the frequency for AM peak at least.

Unless the 912A/B Buses is gonna drop you off at the boarding berth, definitely it's gonna be annoying.

If it's for enhancement, they probably should stick with 912's current or off peak frequency. And for 912A/B, probably runs part of the higher demand sector.

912A : Follow 912's east loop
912B : Replace 912M, running full day(Ideal for checkpoint jam period)

SMB315C SG

BAD Move...

Would be better if they cut short sv912 route, to loop at St41 like 912M instead of heading towards checkpoint. Or increase the frequency for AM peak at least.

Unless the 912A/B Buses is gonna drop you off at the boarding berth, definitely it's gonna be annoying.

If it's for enhancement, they probably should stick with 912's current or off peak frequency. And for 912A/B, probably runs part of the higher demand sector.

912A : Follow 912's east loop
912B : Replace 912M, running full day(Ideal for checkpoint jam period)

Hopefully they will reflect 912, 912A & 912B accordingly on the bus app as well..

Up till now none of the Intra-Towns (I suppose) reflect whether it's E or not on the app..

BusAnalayzer SG

Why so complicated? Why not just split it into two routes, considering there's a need to improve frequency and service reliability on both sides?

I understand the rationale of combining them into one was to improve intra-town connectivity, but from the looks of it, there's a greater need for feeder connection than intra-town connection.

Considering the situation has evolved to this state, it may be better to split the route into two, rather than create one or two route variants for both sides of the route.

Would be good to have 912 break into two feeders and have a trunk service connect the two estates such as:

Kranji MRT -> Woodlands Ave 1 -> st 41 -> Ave 1 -> Ave 2 -> Ave 5 -> Woodlands Ring Road -> ave 6 -> ave 10 -> SLE/TPE -> TPE Punggol -> Changi Airport Terminal 4.

gekpohboy SG

Nonetheless, the consolation is that 912A and 912B will operate at two times the frequency as 912, and they will occupy two different berths at Woodlands Bus Interchange.

912 can be re-numbered, extended to Sembawang Bus Interchange and removed from Woodlands Bus Interchange to avoid confusion.

SMB145B SG

Seriously there is no need for 856A,Wasted resources and in the end bunching occured..Woodlands Centre always jam prone...What they need is bus lanes not adding too many buses or service

856A should have skipped WTCP instead, turning into Marsiling Road and Marsiling Drive.

SMB145B SG

BAD Move...

Would be better if they cut short sv912 route, to loop at St41 like 912M instead of heading towards checkpoint. Or increase the frequency for AM peak at least.

Unless the 912A/B Buses is gonna drop you off at the boarding berth, definitely it's gonna be annoying.

If it's for enhancement, they probably should stick with 912's current or off peak frequency. And for 912A/B, probably runs part of the higher demand sector.

912A : Follow 912's east loop
912B : Replace 912M, running full day(Ideal for checkpoint jam period)

912 Intratown
912A (East Loop only)
912B (West Loop only)
912E (Terminate at WRIT for 912 buses)
912M (West Loop skipping WTCP; on 7am to 9am & 4.30pm to 7.30pm)

like wise for 911/913

TIB987K SG

My suggestion is 912 should go elsewhere and renumbered / withdrawn ...

gekpohboy SG

True that this is rly a serious woe in Woodlands. Any updates abt the expansion of the checkpoint? I rmb this news on ST some time ago but havent heard anything since. Hope that there will be radical changes in that area to ease the endless conjestion woes.

Pertaining to 912 and its family, can i clarify the role of 912E? I also have this gut feeling that 912M will be withdrawn soon. Any thoughts?

Ok. What is it about the role of 912E that you want to clarify? You say you want to clarify, but where's the clarification?

wsy1234 SG

service 71 might be help to reduce some load from ITE and NYP for 159 72 and 88

gekpohboy SG

Pertaining to 912 and its family, can i clarify the role of 912E? I also have this gut feeling that 912M will be withdrawn soon. Any thoughts?

"The three lessees and 14 tenants at the two affected properties will have till Oct 1 next year to vacate the premises." Source: http://www.todayonline.com/

gekpohboy SG

SG5835M at YCK displaying 71

*scroll*

YIO CHU KANG - BISHAN ST 11. 71

The new BTOs in this area are at Ang Mo Kio Street 21, Ang Mo Kio Street 22/23 and Ang Mo Kio Street 51.

gekpohboy SG

Seriously there is no need for 856A,Wasted resources and in the end bunching occured..Woodlands Centre always jam prone...What they need is bus lanes not adding too many buses or service

They probably observed a spike in demand on this section of 856 on Friday during evening peak hour at around 6-7pm, that's why they launched this short-working trip that only operates on Friday from 5:50pm to 7:30pm.

gekpohboy SG

Defeat the purpose of having the whole route by itself. 912M i think can stay if 912 get stuck in traffic. 912E is both 912A n B

Thankfully, the jam is only concentrated at roads leading to the causeway. ie. Woodlands Centre Road, Woodlands Road and BKE towards Woodlands Checkpoint. The other roads are not congested during evening peak hours.

A22 fan SG

@geklohboy

Regarding Amk bto areas coming up, probably:

Amk st 21-perhaps new service from AMK hub interchange wil be introduced n must take time since this road no bus stop shelters n need to be bulit plus various services along ave 3 and ave 1.

As for amk st 51 theres townlink service 265 at st 52 itself plus various services along ave 3 as well. No new service required.

gekpohboy SG

Regarding 71, there used to be a bus service 71 running between Geylang Lorong 1 Terminal and Old Upper Thomson Terminal.

The routing is as follows,

Geylang Lorong 1 Terminal, (Geylang Road, Kallang Road), Sims Avenue, Paya Lebar Road, Upper Paya Lebar Road, (Upper Serangoon Road), Yio Chu Kang Road, (Old Upper Thomson Road) and Old Upper Thomson Terminal.

And return via Old Upper Thomson Terminal, (Old Upper Thomson Road), Yio Chu Kang Road, (Upper Serangoon Road), Upper Paya Lebar Road, Paya Lebar Road, Geylang Road and Geylang Lorong 1 Terminal.

*() denotes express sector.

*Upper Serangoon Road was probably today's Boundary Road.

This service was replaced with today's bus service 70, which runs about the same route as former bus service 71, between Paya Lebar Road and Yio Chu Kang Road, with minor difference in Serangoon area.

SMB1368T SG

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AntiDennisLance SG

Regarding 71, there used to be a bus service 71 running between Geylang Lorong 1 Terminal and Old Upper Thomson Terminal.

And return via Old Upper Thomson Terminal, (Old Upper Thomson Road), Yio Chu Kang Road, (Upper Serangoon Road), Upper Paya Lebar Road, Paya Lebar Road, Geylang Road and Geylang Lorong 1 Terminal.

*() denotes Express sector.

* Upper Serangoon Road was probably today's Boundary Road.

This service was replaced with today's bus service 70, which runs about the same route as former bus service 71 between Paya Lebar Road and Yio Chu Kang Road (minor difference in Serangoon area).

Did this old 71 run the Upper Peirce Reservoir segment of Old Upper Thomson Road? I remember vaguely when I was a kid riding on old TIBS 160 along Upper Thomson Road that I once saw what I remember was an SBS bus picking up a group of waiting passengers at Old Upper Thomson Road(at a bus stop?) near the northern most entrance of Old Upper Thomson Road heading towards YCK Road, at the section where Old and the "new" Roads split and are still visible to each other before Old turns off uphill and disappears from the main road.

That location would be just right outside the current Seletar Range site.

carbikebus SG

Before 71 was withdrawn in 1992 the route is Old Upp Thomson Ter-Lor 1 Geylang Ter

Vampire77lim SG

There is the sbstransit on test bus service route from hougang ave 3 to eunos links jalan eunos geylang rd to where don't

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