Bus Contracting Model (part 2)

last SG · 2016-06-30T16:00:51+00:00

Hopefully somebody here would not compared our GCM with Australia i hope..Aussie is Aussie and Sg is Sg..why not?

dupdup77 SG

TT/GA Bocc is very exaggerating..Sometimes you need to be firm and cocky so that they won't easily bully you.

Hi mr carbikebus, maybe the drivers are under order to agree to the controllers when they call. Cannot simply ignore, right? Cheers. Thanks.

carbikebus SG

Hi mr carbikebus, I understand. But what was put into practise shows a real cock-up and passengers get affected by the intentional slow down. I find it funny that the driver still questions the controller why he tells him to slow down by 5 min during driving but did not inform the next bus which catches up with him at pasir ris interchange. Anyway hope it is a one-off incident. Cheers. Thanks.

Some Bocc more ironic,They will ask you if you're Singaporean or Malaysian..What if I'm Malaysian?Want to bully?

dupdup77 SG

Some Bocc more ironic,They will ask you if you're Singaporean or Malaysian..What if I'm Malaysian?Want to bully?

Hi mr carbikebus, yes understood. Such behind the scenes issues are often played out in the corporate offices in the working world but not stated out directly. It happens almost everywhere. Cheers. Thanks.

carbikebus SG

For myself,I know how to deal with these ppl,Not being biased here but almost 70% of the BOCC and Deployment staff are PR and Malaysians.So far after i use my tactics,Its working!

BusAnalayzer SG

This morning, Go Ahead Singapore called its driver of service 3 (bus no SBS 6636H) at 7.35am to drive slower by another 5 min so as to fetch more people as the next bus service 3 is more than 20 mins late. The initial driver retorted that he is already late on schedule and now still needs to purposely drive slower by another 5 min? The controller told him yes there is really no choice. Many passengers also hear that. Haha. Is this allowed? Cheers. Thanks.

It is. Happened 2 days back along Mountbatten road. There was a sv 12 SD and sv 12 DD right behind. At "Bef Walton Road" stop, the passengers from sv 12 DD were made to alight and board sv 12 SD. And then the "lush green" DD went off service towards NBR.

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lemon1974 SG

the DD might be having issue..... dun think they are allow to transfer pax to another bus even though there is bunching.. unless the DD is having problem (with card reader/aircon etc)..

lemon1974 SG

this is published on the business times 2 days back.... (copyright of businesstimes/SPH)

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/lta-looking-at-buses-with-a-third-door-at-the-end

OCT 3, 20165:50 AM

Singapore

PUBLIC buses with three doors would not only take longer to deliver but also cost significantly more if the Land Transport Authority (LTA) were to introduce them in response to the Public Transport Council's (PTC) Advisory Report.

Public buses currently have one door in front and another in the middle, between the two axles. But the LTA is looking at buses with a third door at the end, behind the rear axle, and two staircases for improved commuter flow and to encourage commuters to move to the rear of the bus.

The move follows some of the recommendations made in the PTC's Advisory Report, which aims to enhance the commuting experience by making bus and train travel more comfortable and accessible for all.

While three-door variants are commonplace in Europe, virtually all of them are left-hand-drive (LHD) models and cannot be easily converted for Singapore's right-hand-drive (RHD) market.

This is because the bus engine is located in the rear and the entire chassis has to be re-configured before the doors can be moved to the left side of the vehicle.

The senior executive of a bus supplier said: "We have buses with three doors but not in right-hand-drive. In fact, this option is not available in the market."

But he added that even though this configuration does not yet exist, current models can be re-engineered to meet the requirement.

"It is not impossible but it will involve significant cost," he said.

The senior executive declined to be named as he said that the LTA could be calling for a tender soon for both single- and double-decker buses with three doors, and he did not want to jeopardise his prospects.

There are currently more than 5,500 public buses in Singapore, operated by former incumbents SBS Transit and SMRT Buses, as well as newcomers Tower Transit and Go-Ahead.

Of these, SBS Transit runs about two-thirds and SMRT a quarter. Tower Transit and Go-Ahead together operate the remaining 10 per cent or so for now.

The transport operators use mainly the Volvo, Mercedes-Benz, Scania and Man brands, and one of these is understood to be specially developing a three-door RHD bus for the Singapore market but only in single-deck trim.

Soon Chow Corp, Singapore's oldest bus manufacturer, recently built a three-door double-decker for UK bus body supplier Alexander Dennis Limited (ADL).

The mock-up does not have an engine and will be displayed at this month's Singapore International Transport Congress and Exhibition.

The managing director of a bus chassis manufacturer said converting a three-door LHD bus to RHD "is difficult and involves a lot of work".

He said: "The development fees are high and because of Singapore's small volume, the cost of each bus will also be high."

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr busanalyser, how did the passengers tap out of the second bus? If they tap out of first bus and they need to tap in 2nd bus, they need pay again because transferring to same service will not have discounts. If they tap out of 1st bus and they did not tap in and tap out of 2nd bus, this means the passengers underpaid for their journeys. If so, Go Ahead Singapore contravened the contracts for loyang tender as fare is collected by LTA. No longer by the transport companies. In this case, Go Ahead may be subjected to fines and may also be warned. Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

They were asked to tap out of first bus and board free on the bus in front.

BusAnalayzer SG

Also note that it was only 7 or 8 pax since the DD tailed behind the SD and this was off-peak around 10AM so not heavy loading on the SD as well. SD carried 30-35 pax.

dupdup77 SG

They were asked to tap out of first bus and board free on the bus in front.

Hi mr busanalyser, this means they were under charged for those journeys. Go Ahead Singapore has no rights to do this if the vehicle is not damaged. Fares are collected by LTA and Go Ahead Singapore must be warned not to use this sort of technique everywhere to save resources. Cheers. Thanks.