RSN frigates - Close up shots of scale mockup

last SG · 2003-11-18T22:27:22+00:00

my second choice would be countermeasures from Rafael, associated with SEW/RAN-1110 systems, given the mast have some antennas that look like it.

spencer99 SG

I would like to retract my statement on the bow being flushed. The photos published here did not show the bow at all.

But somehow I seems to recall that the bow is flushed based on a picture released by Mindef. But I may be wrong or confused with the MCV or the new LST.

touchstone_2000 SG

Blast area, to allow proper venting of the booster motor back blast.

Viper52 SG

Laser,

the exhibition was from the 11-15 Nov. No admission charges, open to trade visitors only. Although screening on trade credentials is not as strict as those for Asian Aerospace.

The exhibition is in 2 areas, the booths are at Expo, while there was also a ship display at Changi Naval Base, with a free shuttle service being provided to and from the 2 sites. This year around 15 ships from various navies took part.

Viper52 SG

Something else I saw at the exhibition. The RSS Resilience, a Fearless-class PV, has been equiped with something new! The following pics show what is mounted on the rear of the deck of the PV. Not too sure if the other PVs are so armed though. She is pictured at the ship display at Changi Naval Base, which is part of the IMDEX exhibition

I had initially thought it was a navalised version of the Rafael Overhead Weapon System found on the Army's M113 Ultras, but when I dropped by the ST Booth in the Exhibition Hall, I saw it was actually a ST design, the Naval Remote Weapon Station (NRWS). And the example they had in the hall came with 4 dummy Igla-SAM launchers. Heres a link on the ST Engg website (,pdf file).

Viper52 SG

[email protected], get a camera with a marco function. I took those pics with my Nikon Coolpix E3100. If the camera's marco is good, you can take clear pics from distances as low as 5cm!

Viper52 SG

I tend to agree here, I think those 3 x 8s are chaff launcher, and from the looks on the photos they look trainable to me. I doubt its the Crotale VT-1, too small in size relative to the gun IMO. But then, who knows?

The 2 x 4s amidships should be MM40 Exocets (Block 3?), as pointed out by cavsg. Different articles in Israeli and French newspapers reported a customer which demanded 'utmost secrecy' ordered the MM40s for 6 frigates last year.

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Fairyland, the radar on the foremast is a fixed set, fixed on the superstructure in all 4 directions, looks to me quite similar to the ones found on the USN Aegis system (though not similar in capabilities?)

I'm sorry I didn't take pics of the radar, however they're included in the video I took. If I can find a www host you'll be able to see it.

The CIWS will come from the ASTER, they have anti-missile capabilities as well.

More ASTER Info via MBDA

8 missiles per VL! Thats what, 256 missiles!!

Spencer99, apologies for missing the bow as well. Not too well versed at taking walkarounds of ships. Aircraft are more my thing Embarassed

The video I took shows that you're right. The bow is flush, so you might be right as to the rear doors being used to tow a towed sonar. However I do think that the bulk of the ASW work will be done by the on board helos.

In the pic of the overhead shots of the MM40 launchers, there seem to be doors other than the ones for the venting of the missile exhausts. ASW torpedoes perhaps?

Joe Black, I noticed that when I was looking at the pics the night I took them. The thought that the space could be used for another system struck me immediately, and the ST NRWS struck me immediately. Or maybe SINBAD with its 2 Mistral SAMs?

Finally, anyone know what is the type/calibre of the main gun?

Viper52 SG

Crotale VT-1 missile on a Omani Qahir-class Corvette. Note the size of the launcher compared to the ship.

Joe Black SG

Viper52, good photos, thank you for sharing these shots....

I think the main gun is the 76mm Super Rapid OTO Melara (62 calibre) with a stealth cupola.

See it in action with the Norwegian Skjold Class

www.aleniadifesa.finmeccanica.it/ A4_co.htm

Joe Black SG

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gary1910 SG

I had initially thought it was a navalised version of the Rafael Overhead Weapon System found on the Army's M113 Ultras, but when I dropped by the ST Booth in the Exhibition Hall, I saw it was actually a ST design, the Naval Remote Weapon Station (NRWS). And the example they had in the hall came with 4 dummy Igla-SAM launchers.

Maybe they r licenced produced by ST, from the external, it look almost identical to Rafael CIWS.[/quote]

Atobe SG

Is this not an odd and dangerous configuration of having the missile tubes directly facing each other ?

What IF an electrical or human error should occur, when one missile from each side is fired near simultaneously ?

Would it not be wiser for each group of missiles be slightly staggered and prevent an accident that the present configuration from ever happening ?

eurofighter SG

This configuration seen on the Deltas is present in most if not all USN surface combatants. So it should be relatively safe.

foxtrout8 SG

>>8 missiles per VL! Thats what, 256 missiles<<

I really wonder how can it be 8 missiles per VL cell? The T45 AirDefence Destroyer is onli carry 48 Aster PAAM , pls check ur claim on 256 missiles.

Fairyland SG

Viper52

1st - Great Pics, thanks! Looking forward to the video too.

2nd - I think VL systems not quite suited to CIWS......so I guess there's a chance for those launchers to be multi purpose. Especially when you see the EO sensors so close by.

3rd - Fixed radar!!! Wow....this means the Deltas will be Aegis capable. Garang!

4th - My wild guess is Aster to be area defense weapon so maybe should be Aster-30??? Especially if you tie in with the radar.

That means CIWS is missing. Maybe they want to go with the Typhoon bolt-on like the Fearless class.

Once again, great pics! Thanks.

foxtrout8 SG

4th - My wild guess is Aster to be area defense weapon so maybe should be Aster-30??? Especially if you tie in with the radar.

Mindef had already confirm that the missile will be Aster ( Base on Mr Peter Ho's speech ) but they havent unveil which version is choosen.

That means CIWS is missing. Maybe they want to go with the Typhoon bolt-on like the Fearless class.

Once again, great pics! Thanks.

Those 3 small units behind the VLS and on top of the hangar could be CIWS. Perhaps they are RAM or even Cortale systems doing the job of CIWS. If u notice , those 3 units are in a tri-position where any attack from left-right-centre-front-back can be deal with.

I doubt the claim that they may be chaff/flare dispenser , because i dun see a need for 3 unit of that. On the fact that this ship is stealth , i believe four units of decoy launchers ( two missile decoy , 2 TTs decoys ) hiden inside the ship is enough to lurk missiles and torpedoes away.

spencer99 SG

I would like to draw your attention on the picture ofthe two "CIWS" in front of the bridge.

If this is to scale, you will note that the height of the steath panel is almost as high as the launcher. This means that the launcher have to "elevate" to fire over the panel. This make sense for decoys or flares and they will create a cloud over at ship and then slowly drift downwards.

But for most CIWS or Point defence weapons the missles then to be launched at zero or low elevation directly at the target. You can see from most pics of live-firing. So I still think it is not CIWS. But I agree that having three seperate trainable units seems a overkill. VL Systems are another story.

Of course the model could be not to scale. The panels could be "controlled" and move aside automatically, or the launcher can fire over the panels.

I have to agree that the position atop the hangar seems the ideal location for a CIWS type weapon the Phalanx on the FFG-7 and the Croatale (spelling) on the Saudi/Qatar frigate is mounted atop the hangar as well.

Fairyland SG

Maybe those launchers are meant for ASW rockets?

This is a good time for the RSN - I hope to see them put these ships to good use. Great chance for RSN to be leader and advance concepts in littorial warfare.

My dream is that one day they can be a part of the USN CBG task force.

foxtrout8 SG

How effective are those rockets?

spencer99 SG

ASW rockets sounds so eastern bloc. In Asia Pac I think mostly use by the PLAN. You can always see footages of them ripple-firing their ASW rockets, their Styx and their Land-based SA-2s in their "Missle-firing Exercises".

The western equivalent is the ASROC which I think is mainly being obseleted.

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