Loading level on buses (Part 2)

last SG · 2016-03-21T01:45:53+00:00

118 getting more loadings during peak hours,Am peak saw a fully seated DD with at least 20 standees while PM saw a DD with fully seated and a few standees wh...

SBS3004X SG

What do you mean by what is this? It is the loading on sv 43.

I was wondering why it showed only that small portion of the loading analysis.

carbikebus SG

Im amazed how some people can really count up to 100 plus pax in a DD

SBS3004X SG

Im amazed how some people can really count up to 100 plus pax in a DD

It is actually not that difficult on a DD, if you are counting from the lower deck.

You should always start counting from the interchange for DDs.

BusAnalayzer SG

Im amazed how some people can really count up to 100 plus pax in a DD

Counting on DDs and SDs is not difficult at all. The one which I have not been able to master after several attempts is counting on bendy bus. I have always failed and my accuracy is not so great.

BusAnalayzer SG

Isn't this SBS3459S slot? It is scheduled just 5 minutes after SBS3448Z. How can the bus in front be 13 minutes ahead?

(This is for weekday schedule.)

I don't know. What I observed is what I have reported. I have used the IRIS app to check bus in front and bus behind. I was surprised to see quite low loading all the way until the bus hit lower end of Paya Lebar road.

SMB42P SG

1st day loading on 308... with the exception of one trip for SMB3159S which was packed due to the presence of CCK MP and grassroot leaders, the rest of the trips and buses were spotted with less than 10 pax on board... most still choose to take 172 over 308 as many are unfamiliar with the route...

BusAnalayzer SG

#veryinteresting observation

Loading on sv 102 @605pm from Hougang Interchange DD

Hougang Interchange -- 30 (0/30)

Upper Serangoon Road -- 38 (0/8), 44 (-1/7), 38 (-10/4), 26 (-19/7)

Buangkok Dr -- 25 (-4/3), 24 (-3/2), 24 (-3/3)

Buangkok MRT -- 38 (-8/22)

Sengkang Central -- 28 (-15/5)

Compassalve Dr -- 20 (-13/5)

Compassalve Rd -- 22 (-2/4), 22 (-3/3)

Sengkang MRT -- 66 (-4/48) please note: there are 18 pax who took bus beyond Sengkang MRT. There were 3 who boarded at Upp. Serangoon Road, who were still on board the upper deck with me.

Sengkang East Way -- 58 (-12/4), 50 (-9/1), 49 (-3/2)

Sengkang West Way -- 36 (-13/3), 26 (-13/3), 16 (-12/2) consistent alighting along stops at Sengkang East Way. Flat occupancy still seems v low.

Jalan Kayu -- 9 (-9/2), 9 (0/0)

Seletar Circus -- 18 (-9/18)

Jalan Kayu -- 20 (0/2), 24 (0/4), 29 (0/5) Seems that 102 is providing good connection b/w Seletar/Jalan Kayu to Sengkang-Hougang town.

Sengkang West Way -- 34 (-5/10), 33 (-7/6), 41 (-1/8) Around 24 pax boarded along Sengkang West Way even though there was a sv 85 right in front. Interestingly, when I took sv 85 last week, sv 102 was right behind and people waited to take sv 102.

Sengkang East Way -- 45 (-2/6), 52 (-2/9), 54 (-3/5) Didn't really expect 54 pax to be on board towards Sengkang MRT as it is direction opposite to peak.

Sengkang MRT -- 27 (-28/1) Just 1 person boarded at Sengkang MRT

Compassalve Road -- 31 (-1/5), 30 (-4/3)

Compassalve Dr -- 30 (-6/6)

Sengkang Central -- 33 (-3/6)

Buangkok MRT -- 57 (-9/33) Another surprising loading. Around 33 pax boarded at BGK MRT. Also note that 24 pax were still onboard, showing that 102 is really working well as an intra-town connector in HG/SGK. Bus stop was packed - had around 50-60 pax waiting for 27/43.

Buangkok Dr -- 50 (-9/2), 40 (-12/2), 31 (-13/4) Around 34 pax alighted along BGK DR. Seems that people prefer to take 102 from BGK MRT rather than HG MRT for BGK Dr. But wouldn't have been better had they taken from HG MRT as the arrival time is more certain since 1st stop rather than BGK MRT, where they are certain to delays.

Upper Serangoon Road -- 30 (-7/6), 28 (-6/4), 24 (-4/0), 17 (-7/0)

Hougang Interchange -- 00 (-17/0)

* 102 has a lot of people taking it as an intra-town between Hougang/Sengkang

* DD potential for 102 seems high with flats along Sengkang West still having low occupancy (of course this will also depend on whether other services are launched along Sengkang West Way, but given that Sengkang West Ave has only 50/163/163M, maybe Sengkang West Way will max get 1 service more)

* Overall really good bi-directional loading, much higher than I expected.

* Frequency is okay, not great. Buses arrive at interval of 10-14 mins.

carbikebus SG

Saw one A22 with fully seated upon reaching Keat Hong.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 168 from Bedok Interchange to Woodlands Interchange @ 16.45

Time check @ Tampines Ave 10 (bef TPE)

Bus in front: 00 mins (bunched). While departing, interval = 04 mins.

Bus behind: 02 mins, 13 mins.

Bedok Interchange -- 10 (0/10)

Bedok North St 1 -- 14 (0/4)

Bedok North Ave 3 -- 18 (0/4), 22 (-1/5), 21 (-1/0)

Bedok Reservoir Road -- 19 (-4/2), 19 (0/0)

SAFRA -- 29 (-2/12)

Tampines Ave 5 -- 32 (-1/4)

Tampines Ave 4 -- 39 (-3/10), 54 (-4/19)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 56 (-9/11)

Tampines Ave 9 -- 54 (-2/0), 44 (-11/1), 44 (-2/2) Bunched with 168 in front at last stop on Ave 9 with a sv 72 in between.

Tampines Ave 10 -- 44 (0/0), 42 (-2/0), 45 (0/3), 57 (-1/13) 168 in front took most pax. Time check: 525pm

TPE Stop -- 54 (-9/6) Though my DD was right behind, most people still tried to cram into the DD in front, even though I assume there wont be many seats. A VO3x was right behind. So at this stop 3 168 DDs bunched.

My 168 DD overtook the DD in front. As expected, it had lot of standees.

Seletar Circus -- 58 (-9/13) 168 VO3x at the back maybe having only 15-20 pax.

Woodlands Ave 2 -- 60 (-3/5), 56 (-8/4), 57 (-1/3), 54 (-3/0)

* Peak loading = 60 pax.

* Spacing of buses needs to be better. 3 DDs bunching when there was no traffic enroute is NOT acceptable.

carbikebus SG

Mr Busanalyzer can do loading survey for RWS8 when youre free?

BusAnalayzer SG

Mr Busanalyzer can do loading survey for RWS8 when youre free?

For RWS8... all you need to do is wait at the HF stop in AM and notice the loading. It is quite good for every bus, with every bus going quite packed.

carbikebus SG

For RWS8... all you need to do is wait at the HF stop in AM and notice the loading. It is quite good for every bus, with every bus going quite packed.

No wonder SMRT love this service,Short route yet so profits.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading of sv 161 & sv 168 at Woodlands Interchange between 18.11 and 19.19 hours

Sv 161

6.11 - 52p - 3718P

6.19 - 69p - 3666K

6.22 - 16p - 3717Y

6.28 - 66p - 3720L

6.39 - 81p - 3683K

6.49 - 75p - 5300P

6.57 - 59p - 3927H

7.08 - 79p - 3012Y

7.19 - 61p - 3705G

* Almost every bus gets +50pax loading, except 1 bus that left 02-03 mins after previous one. Sure goes empty all the way back to Hougang.

* Frequency seems to be around 05-06 mins before 630pm, dropping to around 10 mins after 630pm

* Can cut 1-2 DDs IMO.

BusAnalayzer SG

sv 168

6.15 - 78p - 3821D

6.24 - 85p - 3656P

6.27 - 39p - 9836Y

6.36 - 83p - 3884Y

6.45 - 60p - 7573T

6.52 - 55p - 3971D

7.04 - 96p - 3818P

7.11 - 60p - 3509G

7.17 - 42p - 7443K

* The VO3x slot from both Bedok/Woodlands runs at short interval after DD in front. This slot can be eliminated. 1-2 DDs can be cut. Seems too excess.

* Overall frequency seems within 06-10 mins during the entire PM peak. Could be even better before 6pm as RP students leave around 5pm.

* In red, is the DD worthy loading departures from WRI. I assume there won't be much loading along WDL Ave 2 during this time to Tampines/Bedok. Correct me if I am wrong.

SBS3004X SG

sv 168

6.15 - 78p - 3821D

6.24 - 85p - 3656P

6.27 - 39p - 9836Y

6.36 - 83p - 3884Y

6.45 - 60p - 7573T

6.52 - 55p - 3971D

7.04 - 96p - 3818P

7.11 - 60p - 3509G

7.17 - 42p - 7443K

* The VO3x slot from both Bedok/Woodlands runs at short interval after DD in front. This slot can be eliminated. 1-2 DDs can be cut. Seems too excess.

* Overall frequency seems within 06-10 mins during the entire PM peak. Could be even better before 6pm as RP students leave around 5pm.

* In red, is the DD worthy loading departures from WRI. I assume there won't be much loading along WDL Ave 2 during this time to Tampines/Bedok. Correct me if I am wrong.

There is no VO3X. SBS9836Y is a B10TL. The rest are B9TLs.

SBS3004X SG

I have seen 3 back to back (not bunched) full KUBs on 116 in AM peak on weekdays. I sometimes see this in the afternoon on weekdays as well.

Packed buses on 116 is common on weekends.

carbikebus SG

I understand that 116 do get heavy loadings on certain timings but that doesnt warrant any DDs yet..Added fleet during those timings would be sufficient

SBS3004X SG

sv 168

6.15 - 78p - 3821D

6.24 - 85p - 3656P

6.27 - 39p - 9836Y

6.36 - 83p - 3884Y

6.45 - 60p - 7573T

6.52 - 55p - 3971D

7.04 - 96p - 3818P

7.11 - 60p - 3509G

7.17 - 42p - 7443K

* The VO3x slot from both Bedok/Woodlands runs at short interval after DD in front. This slot can be eliminated. 1-2 DDs can be cut. Seems too excess.

* Overall frequency seems within 06-10 mins during the entire PM peak. Could be even better before 6pm as RP students leave around 5pm.

* In red, is the DD worthy loading departures from WRI. I assume there won't be much loading along WDL Ave 2 during this time to Tampines/Bedok. Correct me if I am wrong.

This would be a more evenly spaced out frequency at about 8 mins. No need to cut DDs.

6:15

6:23

6:31

6:38

6:46

6:54

7:02

7:10

7:17

TPS Timothy Mok SG

This would be a more evenly spaced out frequency at about 8 mins. No need to cut DDs.

6:15

6:23

6:31

6:38

6:46

6:54

7:02

7:10

7:17

Don't forget the jam at the SLE/TPE portion. That is why Tampines avenue 10 being a loneself only one bus service with DD and one bus service with SD. No inconvenience due to the height restriction at Changi Airport. The other portion is covered by service 67 too. Another portion is covered by a free shuttle bus for IKEA.

SBS8002T SG

In addition, I noted the loading for Service 242 while waiting for 193

SBS3642D on 242 arrived around 6:44pm with about 50-60 pax on board, it is notable that even though 242 arrived first, the people queueing for 193 did not move to take 242, a possible reason is that 242 takes a slightly longer route towards Blk 673C and serves Street 72 before heading towards Pioneer Mall, which residents would prefer taking 193 that takes a shorter route.

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