PES FAQs

last SG · 2010-04-08T20:54:24+00:00

tell me what that is al labout?

Domo Kun SG

PES A is totally healthy.

PES B is with minor problems like childhood asthmas, mildly underweight and myopia.

PES C is problem severe enough to warrent non combat fit vocations.

PES E is severe health problems.

PES F is AIDS, cancer, wheelchair bound , severe mental illnesses … ...

PES A and B not much difference.

Domo Kun SG

U may be PES B for fear of height.

SupHusk SG

Hi guys, i need some genuine advice on the medical aspects of my army life

I was initially enlisted as C2L2 temp due to a past knee injury and excused RMJ for 6 months. In addition, i was on isotretinoin on and off in a private hospital for 5 years and restarted the course at National Skin Centre 5 months before i enlisted. HOWEVER, i did NOT declare that i was having this drug at CMPB as i did not know this drug was that "dangerous" in the SAF.

For my BMT, we had to complete 4 weeks at Tekong and 5 weeks at our vocational training institute before our POC. I completed my 4 weeks at Tekong. At my vocational training insitute, i was having issues with my acne vulgaris as i felt the side effects of isotretinoin - extreme dryness on my skin and pain in my nose (due to dryness) at times. Hence, i went to declare i was on the drug and to my surprise THEN, i was ordered by the MO to OOC and had to immediately be downgraded to E9L9.(temp 6months)

Recently i got transferred to my new camp as a storeman. HOWEVER, the serious of the drying effects of isotretinoin was manifesting as i had itchy and sometimes sore eyes in my bunk ( maybe the dust and smoke due to smokers). In addition, time to time, i even have nose bleeding which is troublesome. Hence, very much lately, i had my specialist to write a memo for me to excuse stay in due to the detrimental side effects which i was experiencing.

When i showed the memo to my MO,he merely gave me 2 weeks of excuse stay in and told me to come back again. (FYI, this MO has a bad reputation in my camp for being Bo Chap and lazy. I could testify to it as once, i had a fever of 38.5 degree Celsius right in his face, and he was still surfing his FACEBOOK and didn't give me attend C which i didn't request anyway >:( )

My questions are

1. Do i have to recourse my BMT since i already completed my Tekong training?
(Reason being, i am now a supply assistant and already attended the storeman course. This is the same as what my batchmates go through in their various vocational institutes - Clerk, Storeman, Technician, Driver. I was previously a technician supposedly.)

2. If i continue taking this drug even nearing my PES review in 6months time, will they extend it? What happens if i have to take it over the course of 2 years? (I can't possibly be on temp PES E until i ORD right?)

3. As for my excuse stay in, since it is a valid medical reason, do i have the rights to strongly request from the MO to give me a longer stayout period until my nosebleeding and sore eyes situation stabilizes?

4. And for such MOs who are surfing facebook while treating patients during office hours, are they allowed to do that? I didn't dare challenge him while i was having fever because of our differences in rank but i was indignant that the MO was being unprofessional.

Thank you for reading my lengthy post. Any genuine advice is greatly appreciated! :)

Domo Kun SG

Lastime I go Medical centre MO surfing youtube. If you are taking this medicine permanently tell MO and he will give you a perm status. If not temp status until ORD lor.

Lokey SG

1. Yes. Your status are temp and you have to recourse when you are upgraded to Pes B.But you might be post back as storeman back into the same camp.

2. Yes. They will extend it. But this drug is for cancer patient, deadly and should not be used for long term. So most likely you will cycle off soon.

3. If you got flu today, you got 3 day MC. Now you say you got flu and you want MC perm?

4. MO are 26 to 28 years old NSF. They also like to chao keng and slack.If you say you have fever and want MC, I am sure he will give you MC. But it is usual for people who take such as a poisonous drug to have fever symptom too.

This drug is deadly with numerous side effect. It is killing you slowly. You should get some chinese doctor to cure the root of your problem. Good Luck.

Domo Kun SG

This medicine have many side effects. Heard got ppl get depression or sucidal thoughts after eating.

You may also get cry lips. so dry until lips painful.

matchless SG

Hi MO, I have a question regarding B2L2.

I'm nsman who used to be temp C2L2. Recently my PES has been changed to B2L2.

Can i ask what is this new PES and how does it affect my ICT training? Am i allowed to take part in field training, and at what level?

Many thanks.

Domo Kun SG

Hi MO, I have a question regarding B2L2.

I'm nsman who used to be temp C2L2. Recently my PES has been changed to B2L2.

Can i ask what is this new PES and how does it affect my ICT training? Am i allowed to take part in field training, and at what level?

Many thanks.

L2 can take part in field training. Field train is determined by landcode. Support vocation is possible since B2 is non combat fit.

SBS n SMRT SG

thanks

Anxiously Confused SG

thanks

duchex SG

Hi,

I am a Pes B pre-enlistee.

I've been diagnosed with runner's knee and mild hypertension (not on meds yet, taking a wait and see approach) by 2 seperate specialists.

May I know will my Pes remain the same or will I be downgraded to pes c?

Lokey SG

Hi,

Both are very mild medical problem. But whatever the problem is you have to submit to CMPB now, before BMT enlistment. Let them decide. You have these medical problems at a very young age. Dont get into BMT then downgrade. You will waste time going round in circles achieving nothing.

duchex SG

Thanks for your reply:) My specialist mentioned that he will write in his memo to excuse me from running temporarily, may I know how pes b might be conducted with excuse rmj? Will there be any chance of temp pes c2 if my case goes through to the medical board ?

Lokey SG

Then it would a mess. You got a temp Pes C2 for while. You will undergo the Pes C BMT. When you are upgraded to Pes B after the temp Pes expired. You will need to undergo the Pes A/B BMT again.

Medical board is for people who are already in the army. For people who are not inside. You just need to "update" your medical problem which you failed to declare. My friend broke his arm before BMT. He was given temp Pes C9L9 for 6 months. But his enlistment was delayed for exactly 6 months plus and he went into Pes B BMT.

BUT you must declare what you have, because failed to declare medical problem is an offence.Anyway you need to update CMPB. It get to do with more important issue like compensation and insurances.

IceTeaaa SG

Hi guys. My master arm has a complete fracture of the medial condyle from the humerus since a year ago and it remains unfused and I have osgood schlatter's syndrome. Going through enhanced leadership bmt. Will I be downgraded permanently? What pes status and land code will I possibly get?

eac SG

When supported with a hospital specialist memo, it's a minimum of within PES C range.

Ant Wilson SG

Hi,

My pes status is currently perm C2L2 due to a torn ligament in my ankle. Recently, I was diagnosed again at NUH with bilateral femoroacetabular inpingement and iliotibial band syndrome. My specialist wrote a memo suggesting a permanent downgrade, but didn't specify which pes I would be downgraded to. Could anyone offer some insights?

Thanks!

eac SG

Hi,

Thanks!

Since your condition is supported with a hospital specialist memo, it's a further downgrade to PES C9 to E range.

Ant Wilson SG

Thanks eac :D

Lchiew SG

HI Lonkey you say if One got a temp Pes C2 for while. One will undergo the Pes C BMT. When One upgraded to Pes B after the temp Pes expired. One will need to undergo the Pes A/B BMT again.

I was told once you done Pes A/B or C BMT and pass you will not ask to redo BMT again. Let say I enlist as Pes C temp 6 month and I done and pass my Pes C BMT, 6 month later I up pes to A or B I don't think I will need to go back to do Pes A or B BMT all over again, do corect me if I'm wrong.

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