What did they win in 2006 ?
Did they win a political war or even a military one over Israel
?
Instead, all they did was to split the Palestinian Community
into two - and weakening the Palestinian causes by their divisive
acts that saw their illegally usurping the authority from the
legitimately elected Palestinian Government of President Abbas.
All that the Palestinian had achieved by remaining in
the Hamas controlled Gaza Strip was to make themselves into a
pariah state that is ignored even by the other Arab States of
Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Morroco, Iraq,
and all other World Communities that support the Arab cause.
What victory are you dreaming about that occurred in 2006 ?
For one who claim others for refusing to look at
information that is contrary to pre-conceptions - you seem to be
indulging in double standards that begin with you depending on
propaganda for your facts.
Is it not obvious from your circular arguments based on
flawed logic thinking - that you are fixated to the Hamas
cause and with you being affected by the Palestinian casualties
more then by the Principles of the Issues themselves ?
Surely, we can understand your position in not see
the obvious, as we can see that you are
more indulgent in Hamas agenda despite your claims to
neutrality.
Even if Hamas should take heed of the advance
warning made by Israel, it will already serve Israeli
objectives in neutralising Hamas positions - by emptying Hamas
personnels and destroying the infrastructure.
The scoreboard surely shows the unpreparedness of the Hamas
leadership to take advance construction of civilian
bomb shelters, stocking of food, water and energy, and
training for their civilians to respond to warning systems.
The scoreboard shows the irresponsibility of the Hamas
leadership to declare that rocket attacks will resume at the end of
the last negotiated truce period, even when throughout the truce
period there were no efforts to prepare the Palestinians for this
expected outcome.
Did Israel fire the first salvo immediately after the end of the
Truce on the last day of November 2008 ?
Even then Israel had only responded to the rocket and motar
attacks by returning fire to the points of origins of
the rocket and motar firing spots, and these were located
intentionally by the Hamas leadership in the middle of
dense Palestinian living areas.
It is easy to shout "War Crimes" - but wild rhetoric with fiery
sights then to blind the abilities to see facts on the ground.
If War Crimes are to be instituted, the Hamas leadership will be
the first to be dragged to stand trial - firstly for the
illegitimate overthrow of an elected Palestinian Government in the
Gaza Strip; secondly for the killing and imprisonment of duly
elected officials of the Palestinian Government for the Gaza Strip
under President Abbas; and third for the deliberate firing of
rockets and motar attacks into Israeli civilian residential areas,
schools, and public areas; and fourth for the contravening of the
Geneva Codes of War by using clearly designated neutral faclities
for the storage of weapons, ammunition and training of personnels
that included civilian homes, hospitals, religious sites, schools
and others.
My heart bleeds for the innocent lives loss, but it stops
bleeding for the hypocritical cries of those who support Hamas
deliberate and unprovoked acts of war on the innocent lives of
others.
Israel do not necessary need to prove that "might is right" -
and is clearly resorting to the Middle-eastern tradition upheld by
Islam's conservativism and fundamentalist religious practises in
the "Principle of an Eye for an Eye".
Clearly those outside of the Middle-eastern region do not
understand nor appreciate nor accept such value systems - does that
make anyone in the UN qualified to pass judgment as to what
constitute a War Crime ?
It will make you better off as a Singapore to be less involved
due to your lop sided understanding of Human Rights that is colored
by a lop sided Singapore humanities and value system.
Tell me that you are not one from the same religion of
these Palestinians - and perhaps I can begin to understand in
your position revealed from your clearly show of skewed
neutrality ?
If as an outsider from that region of war, you can
"figure who has the upper
hand in the media war " - it already shows that you are
out-of-touch with the events on the ground with your biased
comments.
Western commentators are more resourceful then your own
narrow assumptions, as others who are more knowledgeable of
the events are already making shocking statements of their own that
‘Israel losing the media war’
So much for your expert views of the reality on the
ground.
If the gas and oil exist, why will Hamas allow themselves
to be used as Iranian pawns to push Iranian agenda first, and put
their own Palestinian future on the back burner ?
After illegally usurping the authority over the Gaza Strip
from the legitimately elected government of President Abbas, why
did the Hamas leadership indulge themselves in the wasteful acts of
aggressions towards Israel - instead of developing their strengths
and stabilising their own future by exploiting the oil and gas
fields lying in the Gaza ?
With the oil and gas fields lying in abundance in the Gaza
Strip - as you have claimed - Hamas would have won the long
term strategic political battle over President Abbas PLA.
Clearly the publicity made about Israel's intention to grab the
Gaza Strip is nothing more then another speculative propaganda
developed by a bankrupt mind that depend on wild imagined
events.
When Israel withdraws from the Gaza Strip after completing
its various missions to discover and destroy all of Hama's
abilities to launch rockets and motars from the Gaza Strip - the
speculators will disingeneously develop another propaganda.
What did they win in 2006 ?
Did they win a political war or even a military one over
Israel ?
They won the political mandate
from the people of Gaza. It is Israel and Fatah who have refused to
recognise the legitimately elected government of the
Palestinians.
For one who claim others for refusing to look at information
that is contrary to pre-conceptions - you seem to be indulging in
double standards that begin with you depending on propaganda for
your facts.
As I pointed out, "propaganda" is
simply "an organised effort to promote a particular belief or
doctrine" (How many times has it been?). Of course
I would depend on propaganda. You don't? You depend on a blank
intellect (does that even exist?) to make a judgement?
Even then Israel had only responded to the rocket and motar
attacks by returning fire to the points of origins of
the rocket and motar firing spots, and these were located
intentionally by the Hamas leadership in the middle of
dense Palestinian living areas.
So its the "Hamas always returns
to the scene of the crime" logic? Does the Israeli military thinks?
If Hamas fires a rocket from somewhere, would they even stay in
that same place? All this strategic wisdom just gets hundreds of
civilians killed.
It is easy to shout "War Crimes" - but wild rhetoric with
fiery sights then to blind the abilities to see facts on the
ground.
If War Crimes are to be instituted, the Hamas leadership
will be the first to be dragged to stand trial - firstly for the
illegitimate overthrow of an elected Palestinian Government in the
Gaza Strip; secondly for the killing and imprisonment of duly
elected officials of the Palestinian Government for the Gaza Strip
under President Abbas; and third for the deliberate firing of
rockets and motar attacks into Israeli civilian residential areas,
schools, and public areas; and fourth for the contravening of the
Geneva Codes of War by using clearly designated neutral faclities
for the storage of weapons, ammunition and training of personnels
that included civilian homes, hospitals, religious sites, schools
and others.
My heart bleeds for the innocent lives loss, but it
stops bleeding for the hypocritical cries of those who support
Hamas deliberate and unprovoked acts of war on the innocent
lives of others.
Israel do not necessary need to prove that "might is right"
- and is clearly resorting to the Middle-eastern tradition upheld
by Islam's conservativism and fundamentalist religious practises in
the "Principle of an Eye for an Eye".
Clearly those outside of the Middle-eastern region do not
understand nor appreciate nor accept such value systems - does that
make anyone in the UN qualified to pass judgment as to what
constitute a War Crime ?
It will make you better off as a Singapore to be less
involved due to your lop sided understanding of Human Rights that
is colored by a lop sided Singapore humanities and value
system.
Aren't you a Singaporean who have
passed through the same education system? Are you saying that
you're more qualified than the UN to make a judgement on "war
crimes". If that is the case, say so.
There is no doubt that Hamas has
committed war crimes, though not for overthrowing the Fatah
government through a legitimate election, but for firing rockets
into Israel. But in the same breath, Israel has also breached that
same Geneva Conventions which you quoted.
"Israel signed the Geneva Convention on 7th June, 1951. For the Convention to
have any value, Israel must be charged and made to stand trial in
The Hague under the following sections.
Article 3 states "that even where there is not a conflict of
international character the parties must as a minimum adhere to
minimal protections described as: noncombatants, members of armed
forces who have laid down their arms, and combatants who are hors
de combat (out of the fight) due to wounds, detention, or any other
cause shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, with the
following prohibitions:
(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds,
mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;
(b) Taking of hostages;
(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and
degrading treatment
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions
without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted
court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized
as indispensable by civilized peoples."
(a) Bombing of police stations, schools, ambulances, power
plants and hospitals are designed to murder civilians
indiscriminately.
(b) Israel's routine abduction of men, women and children
in to Israeli detention camps. The number of such
prisoners is 700,000 since 1967.
(c) Israeli soldiers routinely prevent pregnant women from receiving proper
hospital treatment resulting in infant mortality, miscarriages and
death.
(d) Israel's "targeted killings" of Hamas leaders constitutes
murder.
Article 33 states "No protected person may be punished for an
offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective
penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism
are prohibited.
Pillage is prohibited.
Reprisals against protected persons and their property are
prohibited."
The unrelenting and merciless collective punishment of the
Palestinian people has taken the form of..
(a) Destruction of Palestinian dwellings to make
room for illegal settlements
(b) Destruction of Olive groves on Palestinian land and
its resultant decimation of livelihoods.
(c) Bombing of a Palestinian power station
collectively punished all Gaza inhabitants. Basic sanitation works
were severely impacted.
(d) Blockading of medical supplies and food which
left Palestinians eating grass for sustenance.
Israel has had resolutions passed against it since 1947 without any
real enforcement. The sequence of resolutions below illustrates the
complete lack of commitment of the United Nations to force Israel
to comply with anything..
Resolution 636: " ... 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of
Palestinian civilians.
Resolution 641: "... 'Deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of
Palestinians.
Resolution 672: "... 'Condemns' Israel for "violence against
Palestinians" at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
Resolution 673: "... 'Deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with
the United Nations.
Resolution 681: "... 'Deplores' Israel's resumption of the
deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 694: "... 'Deplores' Israel's deportation of
Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate
return.
Resolution 726: " ... 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of
Palestinians.
Resolution 799: ". . . 'Strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of
413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return."
- Israel's War Crimes and "Change we can believe
in"
If war crimes are really
prosecuted, then the entire Bush Administration would have already
been sentenced for their 8 years of war crimes, as well as the
Clinton Administration, for their "humanitarian bombing" aka
balkanisation of Yugoslavia and putting into power the mafia
government of Hashim Thaci.
Obviously, might is
right.
After illegally usurping the authority over the Gaza
Strip from the legitimately elected government of President Abbas,
why did the Hamas leadership indulge themselves in the wasteful
acts of aggressions towards Israel - instead of developing their
strengths and stabilising their own future by exploiting the oil
and gas fields lying in the Gaza ?
Did Israel even accord the Gazan
government the same level of sovereignty it enjoys?
Clearly the publicity made about Israel's intention to grab
the Gaza Strip is nothing more then another speculative propaganda
developed by a bankrupt mind that depend on wild imagined
events.
When Israel withdraws from the Gaza Strip after
completing its various missions to discover and destroy all of
Hama's abilities to launch rockets and motars from the Gaza Strip -
the speculators will disingeneously develop another
propaganda.
Obviously I cannot argue against
your superb ESP abilities.
