Did Hamas win any political mandate from the people of Gaza, or
did Hamas win a pyrrhic victory that resulted in a larger loss to
the Palestinian people as a whole ?
Hamas supposed political victory at the 2006 elections was
a result that had
Hamas winning only 44.45% and Fatah 41.43% - with the
remaining percentage held by independents.
It was sheer dumbness on the Palestinian population as a whole
to wilfully snub the international communities' views towards Hamas
by electing Hamas into power; only to see the required
international funding stopped to prevent the funds going into the
hands of Hamas - known for their terrorists activities, and for
their refusal to renounce the destruction of another sovereign
state.
The World should simply step aside and let the Palestinians and
Arabs resolve the mess that they have created for
themselves.
If you possess any intellect, can intellect be "blank" ?
Is it not odd that you will question your own statement if
"blank intellect exist" ?
If you are incapable to prevent yourself from taking a
dispassionate views of events, filter out all the propaganda, see
the issues in their stark bare facts without all the
other peripheral emotional issues and images - can you even know
how to stay neutral and make fair comments to the issues at hand
?
Do you understand what “Propaganda” is about ?
Is it as simple as you claim in the interpretation given
for your understanding of "propaganda" ?
Do you think that Hamas can hide itself from the drones that are
in the air 24 / 7 / 365 and have been capturing images
of the activities of Hamas or some unaffiliated
insurgents ?
Secondly, would it not be logical for Hamas to be unable to run
away from the purposefully selected firing sites for their weapon
systems, considering their lack of military training, and nil
military strategies ?
Finally, if their objective is to gain victory in the propaganda
war against Israel, and to create international outrage towards
Israel - would they not locate their activities in the midst of
dense concentration of Palestinian residential areas ?
Which is what is happening.....
Am I a Singaporean who have passed through the same education
system ?
Which education system are you referring to ?
Are you referring to the Middle-eastern / Arabic education
system moulded by their centuries old culture and traditions ? Are
you walking at a tangent ?
While we have evolved in our vlaues and life styles - the Arabs
seems to be trapped by the fundamentalist and extreme conservatists
that mould their minds and trap them in the age old religious
teachings.
They prefer to allow themselves to be led by fundamentalists and
conservatists, rather then by those who are educated and who
are modernists from amongst their younger generations.
Closer to home, we see our neighbors imitating the
Middle-eastern fundamentalists and conservatists - simply
to gain influence and control the minds of the rural uneducated
folks, who are easily impressed by seemingly authoritative
views from voices that pretend to be firm, strong, and forceful -
but bankrupt of ideas to bring their community forward in this 21st
Century.
In this day and age, despite more the forty years of
independence, these uneducated would prefer to submit themselves
and the larger community to be restricted
by the archaic Hudud Laws based on some vague and archaic
religious precepts.
Clearly the litany of this list of supposed Israeli
transgressions - as listed above and below - is a repeat
of all that the Arab world had uselessly and impotently propagated
for the last sixty years, and you have taken the easy option to
merely regurgitate shamelessly despite claims to being a neutral
Singaporean observer.
Are you sufficiently familiar with the Geneva Convention to make
such comments, or have you simply regurgitate mindlessly and
undiscernngly what others have posted ?
Are you aware of the contents in the Fourth Geneva Conventions
August 12, 1949 – which Israel signed and ratified on July 6, 1951
? Since then, including after the 1967 war, Israel has not
denounced the Conventions (even as it is permitted by article 158)”
?
If it is so obvious - that might is right, why
has the might of the larger Arab population been unable to
serve their own people but allow a smaller Israeli population to
dominate the politics and military might of the region ?
Is it not typical wild rhetoric to prosecute the entire Bush
Administration, or even the Clintons ? Why did you leave
Russia's Putin out of action -
Why has there been no talk of war crime prosecution towards
Saudi Royal Family for the gross abuse towards their women folks;
or the Iranian systematic enslavement of those deemed as threat to
the State ?
Those that the Israeli Authorities have incarcerated were
known Palestinian terrorists, some of whom were also
prosecuted by the Palestinian Authority or Fatah.
If you cannot fathom the Middle-eastern culture of "returning an
eye for an eye" - you might look better keeping your silence
instead of exposing your weaker side.
Firstly, is there a legitimate Gazan Government after the
legitimate one was overthrown by Hamas ?
Secondly, has any Arab or any country in the Middle-east
recognised Hamas as the legitimate Government ?
Were you invited to argue against anybody's ESP ?
Are you even capable to argue with yourself ?
Hamas supposed political victory at the 2006 elections
was a result that had
Hamas winning only 44.45% and Fatah 41.43% - with the
remaining percentage held by independents.
Is that not democracy?
If you are incapable to prevent yourself from taking a
dispassionate views of events, filter out all the propaganda, see
the issues in their stark bare facts without all the
other peripheral emotional issues and images - can you even know
how to stay neutral and make fair comments to the issues at hand
?
Do you understand what “Propaganda” is about ?
Is it as simple as you claim in the interpretation
given for your understanding of "propaganda" ?
Which is what I'm trying to do. I
think that Hamas should not launch rocket attacks at Israel. But at
the same time, Israel's retaliation is simply excessive for the
kind of conflict which is taking place. How is that not objective?
Are you going to stand by dispassionately and comment 'neutrally'
while Israel slaughters close to 1000 Palestinians?
By the way, I'm just using the
definition of "propaganda" that Edward Bernays, the father of
public opinion, used.
"The mechanism by which ideas are
disseminated on a large scale is propaganda, in the broad sense of
an organised effort to spread a particular belief or
doctrine...."Propaganda" in its proper meaning is a
perfectly wholesome word, of honest parentage, and with an
honourable history. The fact that it should to-day
be carrying a sinister meaning merely shows how much of the child
remains in the average adult. A group of citizens writes
and talks in favour of a certain course of action in some debatable
question, believing that it is promoting the best interest of the
community. Propaganda? Not a bit of it. Just a plain forceful
statement of truth. But let another group of citizens
express opposing views, and they are promptly labeled with the
sinister name of propaganda..."
Am I a Singaporean who have passed through the same
education system ?
Which education system are you referring to ?
Quoting "It
will make you better off as a Singapore to be less involved due to
your lop sided understanding of Human Rights that is colored by a
lop sided Singapore humanities and value system."
Clearly the litany of this list of supposed Israeli
transgressions - as listed above and below - is a repeat
of all that the Arab world had uselessly and impotently propagated
for the last sixty years, and you have taken the easy option to
merely regurgitate shamelessly despite claims to being a neutral
Singaporean observer.
Whether the Arabs are the ones
propagating it or not is unimportant, the point is that Israel HAS
carried those acts out and received condemnation from the UN,
though always protected by the US's veto power. If you are of the
opinion that those violations of human rights didnt take place and
hence are lies, say so then.
If it is so obvious - that might is right, why has
the might of the larger Arab population been unable to serve
their own people but allow a smaller Israeli population to dominate
the politics and military might of the region ?
Which journalist has had the balls
to ask any Arab ruler that question? I dont know for sure, but it
seems that they dont care about their Arab brothers in Gaza. As
long as they can prosper, its business as usual.
Is it not typical wild rhetoric to prosecute the entire Bush
Administration, or even the Clintons ? Why did you leave
Russia's Putin out of action -
Why has there been no talk of war crime prosecution towards
Saudi Royal Family for the gross abuse towards their women folks;
or the Iranian systematic enslavement of those deemed as threat to
the State ?
By all means include them. I was
just stating some examples.
Firstly, is there a legitimate Gazan Government after the
legitimate one was overthrown by Hamas ?
The question should be is Fatah
the legitimate government of Gaza by refusing to relinquish power
to Hamas after losing the 2006 elections?
Secondly, has any Arab or any country in the Middle-east
recognised Hamas as the legitimate Government ?
Hamas became the legitimate
government of the Palestinian people when it won the elections.
Whether or not any country in the region or outside of it
recognises it is a matter of geopolitics. It is whether they can
afford to offend the western world, especially the US and
Israel.
Were you invited to argue against anybody's ESP ?
Were you presuming to have ESP
when you made this statement?
"When Israel withdraws from the Gaza Strip after
completing its various missions to discover and destroy all of
Hama's abilities to launch rockets and motars from the Gaza Strip -
the speculators will disingeneously develop another
propaganda."
