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last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

SBS3688Y SG

Open DD-friendly bus terminal at CGA with 3 stops at each of the terminals while the current terminal be used as a car park.

its terrible that the authorities are not trying to create a DD friendly and also aircon bus terminal at CGA. now most buses are suffering from loss of productivity as they csnt deploy ADDs. when the new bus-stops along TPE Punggol opens, sv858 loading is going to get worse. and we still got another Terminal 4 coming up soon.

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr SBS3688Y, i believe i do not know the actual reasons. I analyse the road situations around that area and came to conclude that when they build the TPE, there is no intention of building bus stops. Only when population increases, then they decide to build. However, the exact locations of the stops were perceived that it must maximise to the convenience of most passengers and surrounding residents. As with current location near to slip roads, they decide to even incorporate current overhead bridges and extend them out.

For buses to travel from leftmost to rightmost lanes, i believe not all the services are affected. Only a few! They are left with not much of a choice other than to manuover on the road which they should have some luxury of time.

For vehicles competing to cut into sengkang east road, they are already doing it now. Not much related. Moreover, sbs 109 is the only service that goes by this road after finishing TPE.

Yes travelling up and down slip roads incurs additional time. That is one of the cons. In any way, this happens to the buses. Cars are not affected.

Acx1688 SG

CGA PTB for T1,2,3 is fixed n not goin to change, do note when CGA was conceptualised in the 80s, SG fx rate against other currencies was not as strong as now, in fact it was weak against all major currencies, with this in mind, authorities assume tourists will travel to town via cabs...

For Chek Lap Kok, due to being very far from city and N.T. areas n also pop of 7million, planning authorities created a GTC for DD deployments...

IN SG, CAG n gahmen believe public buses wld only be heavily utilised by pple wkin in airport... Bsides MRT was extended providing snother mode of transport...

23ispolo SG

Juz head there n see... its very very very long...

din tot of taking pix when wen past...

Never mind, found a photo from Facebook page Omnibology - SG:

I'm surprised that it is on a slope... Will it cause problems for traffic exiting at the slip road?

Acx1688 SG

OT a bit

besides me, who have seen the new bus stops at TPE? Care to tell?

Acx1688 SG

Never mind, found a photo from Facebook page Omnibology - SG:

I'm surprised that it is on a slope... Will it cause problems for traffic exiting at the slip road?

No it doesnt cause problems for traffic exiting, it is very spacious...
Anyway most services leaving PNH/SKG use this slip road...
One mus b there personally 2 c it

dupdup77 SG

No it doesnt very spacious... Mus b there personally 2 c it

Hi mr Acx1688, the picture does not do justice to the long bus stop. I bypass it almost everyday. It is about 5 times the normal bus stops you see everywhere! Endured 1 year 3 months of daily weekday morning peak hour jams when the bus stop was constructed. The nightmare has ended!

SBS2601D SG

So much angst as usual.

Life is so simple actually.

If the bus is full/slow/whatever, adjust your timings and expectations.

*yawn*

SBS9C SG

Agreed Sv 27 has a great frequency but you have to also identify with the woes of the people.

1. Sv 27 bunches more than it does not. 2-3 buses together is common. Especially at Tampinee Reg Library towards Hougang, you will see 3 buses in PM turning in from tam ave 4. As you are aware, people all flog into the first bus. This way first two buses get 70 pax, next buses that come go empty. Very common. You realize people go standing, sticking to each other for 20-25 mins of their journey. Can be avoided by putting lesser buses no roads and having DDs leaving from Tampines interchange instead on 27M.

2. CGA does not need 3-4 minute frequency. The loading there is pretty low. Hence, 27 can have frequency of 8-10 mins to CGA and 27M can have frequency of 6-8 mins from Tampines Interchange with DDs.

Lta should seriously consider this, and this decision will very well be welcome by people.

As a usual 27 commuter, I strongly agree with your suggestion.

Anyone here take 27 or 27A in the morning? I observed that the schedule for 27A is always behind 27, even if 27A is at the front it will still purposely slow down and 27 drivers will speed up to overtake. But the problem is that most commuters still board the first bus they see, even if it is crowded and 27A is just behind.

I also hope that the scheldule for 27A could be changed, to place them infront of the 27 bus, or between the front and back 27 buses to reduce waiting time.

Acx1688 SG

Truncated reply, read my post again...

BusAnalayzer SG

As a usual 27 commuter, I strongly agree with your suggestion.

I also hope that the scheldule for 27A could be changed, to place them infront of the 27 bus, or between the front and back 27 buses to reduce waiting time.

LTA, do you care about what users actually face and want??

Acx1688 SG

LTA, do you care about what users actually face and want??

at times yes, most of the time NO

SMB128B SG

OT a bit besides me, who have seen the new bus stops at TPE? Care to tell?

Moi.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 143M @ 14.20 hours on 6444 Citaro

Jurong East Interchange -- 16

Jurong East St 13 -- 20

Jurong East Central -- 26

Jurong Townhall rd -- 28, 26 (-2/0), 25 (-2/1), 20 (-7/2)

Teban Gardens Rd -- 21 (-2/3), 19 (-4/2), 8 (-13/2)

West Coast Road -- 8 (0/0), 4 (-4/0), exp

Pandan Gardens -- 6 (-4/6), 6 (0/0)

Jurong Townhall rd -- 6 (0/0)

West Coast Rd -- 8 (0/2), 12 (0/4)

Teban Gardens Rd -- 29 (0/17), 35 (0/6), 35 (-7/7) peak loading

Jurong Townhall rd -- 36 (-1/2), 34 (-2/0), 34 (0/0), 32 (-2/0)

Jurong East Central -- 27 (-5/0)

** People seemed very comfortable taking the bus (I mean there was no confusion in their minds since number is same)

** Noticed all 6 people who boarded at Pandan Gardens stop aligjhted at Jurong MRT, no one at Teban Gardens

** There were 6-7 people who boarded on first stop of Teban Gardens who alighted at Teban Gardens PO.

dupdup77 SG

Good planning there. I take it that Pole 5 will be empty?

Oh there are not only 5. Should be 6 poles and 12 glass panels to show bus service numbers! So bus stop should be about 6 times longer than normal bus stop! Cheers.

Acx1688 SG

Oh there are not only 5. Should be 6 poles and 12 glass panels to show bus service numbers! So bus stop should be about 6 times longer than normal bus stop! Cheers.

Folks, 6 poles(eh u noe have six? coz i din c any pole last week except glass panels) means there will be NEW services utilising TPE to get to somewhere

to simplify, just look at the boarding/alighting bay of some interchanges(old school type for comparison) to compare the new TPE bus stop near SKG/PNG

Bedok TEMP int : 1.5 of total berths

SKG Int: all the berths combined and put it in a straight line

23ispolo SG

Wonder why this long... Saw it on SMB1345J on 858 to CGA and I was literally: Why is it so long? BSEP did this to give new services to Sengkang and Punggol? Oh no.

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr Acx1688, I take it as 2 glass panels to 1 pole. There are 12 glass panels. So I predict 6. Cheers.

Acx1688 SG

Wonder why this long... Saw it on SMB1345J on 858 to CGA and I was literally: Why is it so long? BSEP did this to give new services to Sengkang and Punggol? Oh no.

N u nev take pix? Reason long coz ve bendy buses n surely new bus svcs, in addition to excellent freq for 27(2/3 buses together), soon improved freq for 168...

BusAnalayzer SG

Sv 147 from Clementi Interchange @ 17.50 hours B9TL

Clementi Interchange -- 35

Clementi Ave 3 -- 44 (0/9)

Commonwealth Ave -- 48 (-1/5), 47 (-4/3), 52 (-8/13), 54 (-2/4), 50 (-8/4), 53 (-4/7), 53 (-6/6), 52 (-5/4), 63 (-9/20)

Queensway -- 62 (-6/5), 61 (-2/1), 60 (-4/3), 59 (-7/6)

Jalan Bukit Merah -- 69 (-2/12), 67 (-9/7), 64 (-9/6), 68 (-7/11), 71 (-4/7), 67 (-12/8), 65 (-10/8), 65 (-7/7), 67 (-2/4)

Kampong Bahru -- 66 (-4/3)

Eu Tong Sen -- 66 (-2/2), 65 (-10/9), 68 (-8/11), 70 (-11/13), 69 (-5/4)

Hill St -- 71 (-2/4), 70 (-4/3)

Stamford St -- 76 (-5/11)

Princep St -- 76 (-4/4)

Selgie Rd -- 79 (-6/9) peak loading, 77 (-7/5) alighted here before Little India stop.

Observation:

** 90% part of route loading 65+ pax

** notice heavy loading/unloading at every stop. This must be one of the highly profitable routes just with the sheer number of passengers it carries

** bus is quite fast as it is dd! people get down and board swiftly as it is not to its peak capacity. Imaging how slow a Citaro or KUB would be on this route, where every time bc will have to tell people to move behind.

** after Chinatown! loading started to cross 70+ pax and grew even more before Little India area..

** excited to take service between Chinatown and Hougang next time.

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