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last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

carbikebus SG

975A need more buses during weekend and PHs,Pity those foreign workers miss so many buses at CCK..

sbst191 SG

975A need more buses during weekend and PHs,Pity those foreign workers miss so many buses at CCK..

Freq of buses plying industrial estates always sucks. Yes 975 does need more buses. Maybe can downroute from depot instead of bukit panjang as bukit panjang area always jam, delaying 975

SBS6465E SG

So half the pax boarding at CBP alight at Tanah Merah... The other half (34 pax) mainly alight at Marine Parade. For TNM it's a bit lower than my expectations, maybe many people working there are still walking to Expo MRT.

For those boarding at Tanah Merah MRT towards Marine Parade, although the crowds are quite messive, they would still take 31/48 if there's no 47... Plus many 48 buses will be empty when arriving at Tanah Merah. Maybe 47 there is good to relieve loads on 31/48, although I wouldn't say it's that necessary.

Absolutely, I took 47 from before Tanah Merah MRT at about 6.05pm. 47, 38 & 12 arrived at the same time. 47 was last. Counted about 5 people boarding the bus. Most of the demand is actually NOT to MP but really between CBP, TNM and Bedok South. Of course, this is contingent upon it arriving without any competition at TNM.

Hankmoody583 SG

Need more but can't make it!

A Bus Observer SG

Loading on 189, during morning peak @ Clementi MRT to Nan Hua high school:

always very full, students always stranded, left with only other svcs to take, some buses are extreemly overpacked, some not so cause they dw to move to the rear. Today there was some improvement, DDs were deployed instead of usual SDs. Students waiting at Blk 317 or before, can’t board cause bus from bbt load is packed to door. DD takes about 5-6mins to unload all pax at school. To be honest, DD or BD doesn’t really matter, what matters is bringing people to school ON time.

Obs today saw many people taking bus 183, 106.
Pretty much every 189 gets overloaded.

perhaps they can get DDs to downrt from 1 stop before Clementi station or operate 106A to Nan Hua high or make 106A change eds to 189 @ Clementi station?

array88 SG

Loading on 189, during morning peak @ Clementi MRT to Nan Hua high school:

Obs today saw many people taking bus 183, 106.
Pretty much every 189 gets overloaded.

perhaps they can get DDs to downrt from 1 stop before Clementi station or operate 106A to Nan Hua high or make 106A change eds to 189 @ Clementi station?

Time for 189B from Clementi MRT (or Clementi Ave 6) to Clementi Ave 1?

SBS3004X SG

Service 43 is getting worse this year compared to 2015. SDs on 43M will arrive packed to the door, then one minute later, DDs on 43 will appear. This is even worse than bunching of 43 and 43M with one SD and one DD! There is no bus that departs Punggol at 6.35 am, or 3 minutes before or after, on both 43 and 43M. Something has to be done about the crowd of students at 6.50 am at Sengkang and Punggol. Many students were left stranded at Buangkok Green because of this pig-brained deployment of SBS6500K 2 minutes before SBS3105M. The previous bus before these two is SBS3458U and SBS3003Z, that bunch very often and leave 15-17 minutes before either SBS6500K or SBS3105M.

SBS6500K also gets huge school crowds in the afternoon. It's time that LTA does something about this and upgrade SBS6500K.

SBS3004X SG

SBS3105M hardly ever overtakes SBS6500K.

TIB429E SG

Loading on 189, during morning peak @ Clementi MRT to Nan Hua high school:

Obs today saw many people taking bus 183, 106.
Pretty much every 189 gets overloaded.

perhaps they can get DDs to downrt from 1 stop before Clementi station or operate 106A to Nan Hua high or make 106A change eds to 189 @ Clementi station?

Once saw a full house DD pulling into Clementi MRT during PM Peak also...

AJQZC SG

Loading on 189, during morning peak @ Clementi MRT to Nan Hua high school:

Obs today saw many people taking bus 183, 106.
Pretty much every 189 gets overloaded.

perhaps they can get DDs to downrt from 1 stop before Clementi station or operate 106A to Nan Hua high or make 106A change eds to 189 @ Clementi station?

An alternative solution would be to extend 173 to Clementi Ave 1. Though this may be counter-productive, given 173's current fleet and frequency.

carbikebus SG

The best thing is to convert several SD slots to DD..

TIB429E SG

Spotted 2 Sv170 Citaro within Kranji area...both seems to be rather empty towards Queen St. Maybe SBST should just run them during peak hours?

BusAnalayzer SG

For 189, the # of high capacity buses is lesser than it deserves. I think frequency is okay but SDs cannot tank the load. Good fleet would be just the opposite of what we have today. 8 DDs, 5 SDs.

Moreover 189 has DD worthy loading in both directions albeit not entire route.

BusAnalayzer SG

SBS6500K also gets huge school crowds in the afternoon. It's time that LTA does something about this and upgrade SBS6500K.

43 is becoming an issue at both ends. Even at Paya Lebar side. I think it is still okay between Serangoon and Buangkok Green due to 43M. It is classic that when SDs are deployed and the bus gets full, the SD moves very slowly as pax alight and pax have to board at every stop. With this the DD at the back catches up.

But I think students are not really stranded if there is a DD right behind. It is okay to wait for the next bus. To your point, if this is a regular case, SBS should adjust to have the DD on 6500K slot and vice-versa. It irritates me to hell when the SD in front gets 70pax bursting, and the DD comes right behind with 40-50 pax, when it should be the other way around.

I spotted this on sv 25/87 also. So wrong to have SDs on these services, because they cannot tank the load. SDs on these services travel slower than DDs and usually DDs catch up with SD in front not able to take in all pax.

BusAnalayzer SG

My proposal:

43M -> 6 SDs (downgrade 3 DDs -> 3 SDs)

43 -> 14 DDs, 7 SDs (upgrade 4 SDs -> 4 DDs)

* 43M DDs many times bunch with 70 & 43 at NEX and go empty all the way back to Punggol. Likewise in AM towards NEX. SDs can help better in this sector as frequency on YCK road sector between 43/43M/70 is a bus every 03 minutes equal to the best feeders in some towns (that too with HC buses)

* 43 SDs cannot tank the load as there are people from YCK road who want to go to Parkway or Paya Lebar and cannot board because of huge number of pax alighting at NEX

* 43 SDs are not able to tank load from Paya Lebar towards Marine Parade/Bayshore as well

* This way the DDs can be used better throughout 43 route.

proudtobeme SG

I excite to post first full loading analyse on serv 118.

time: 415pm from changi business park central

changi business park central (11)

changi point (22)

changi sth av 1 (25)

xilin avenue (26)

simei avenue (66 ite), 70, 72 (changi hospital - first stop where peop alight)

tamp avenue 1 (72, 70, 79, 92)

tamp avenue 8 (91, 86)

tamp avenue 10 (90, 86, 80, 81, 83) many get down 2nd stop to transfer bus 27 and 58

tpe stop (44) half bus got empty here

punggol way (45, 38)

punggol central (36)

punggol interchange (-36)

high point = 92 at tamp avenue 1.

no spot any single decker. i think full fleet double decker. i did not expect so good load since bef pm peak but all traffic student from ite and some temasek.

SBS3004X SG

My proposal:

43M -> 6 SDs (downgrade 3 DDs -> 3 SDs)

43 -> 14 DDs, 7 SDs (upgrade 4 SDs -> 4 DDs)

* 43 SDs cannot tank the load as there are people from YCK road who want to go to Parkway or Paya Lebar and cannot board because of huge number of pax alighting at NEX

* 43 SDs are not able to tank load from Paya Lebar towards Marine Parade/Bayshore as well

* This way the DDs can be used better throughout 43 route.

Then, the whole 43M fleet should cross over to 34 during peak hours. 43M will be full DD during peak hours only, and 34 will need no split shift buses.

BusAnalayzer SG

Then, the whole 43M fleet should cross over to 34 during peak hours. 43M will be full DD during peak hours only, and 34 will need no split shift buses.

If full 43M fleet crosses over to sv 34 during peak hours, why do you even need 43M?

SBS3004X SG

If full 43M fleet crosses over to sv 34 during peak hours, why do you even need 43M?

Double-decker buses replace the 43M single-deckers during peak hours.

dupdup77 SG

I excite to post first full loading analyse on serv 118.

time: 415pm from changi business park central

changi business park central (11)

changi point (22)

changi sth av 1 (25)

xilin avenue (26)

simei avenue (66 ite), 70, 72 (changi hospital - first stop where peop alight)

tamp avenue 1 (72, 70, 79, 92)

tamp avenue 8 (91, 86)

tamp avenue 10 (90, 86, 80, 81, 83) many get down 2nd stop to transfer bus 27 and 58

tpe stop (44) half bus got empty here

punggol way (45, 38)

punggol central (36)

punggol interchange (-36)

high point = 92 at tamp avenue 1.

no spot any single decker. i think full fleet double decker. i did not expect so good load since bef pm peak but all traffic student from ite and some temasek.

Hi mr proudtobeme, impressive loading. Cheers. Thanks.

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