Loading level on buses

last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

lemon1974 SG

Usually demand drops after 845am. Not analysed for long time, but when I did maybe a year ago, saw the main peak loading came from 740am to 840am - one hour when every bus gets around 50-70 pax departing from Toa Payoh, depending on sv 8 departure as well, which equally gets 50-70 pax on each bus. After 840am, the loading quite drops with around 30-50 pax per bus (again because sv 8 still continues to operate at high frequency).

sv 8 AM frequency is around 06 mins, and sv 90/90A operates at around 08 mins. So there is a bus every 03-04 mins to Macpherson.

i saw so many times at ST andrew's area at roughly that timing.... sv8 also got lot of paxes.. this timing should have less paxes unless they start work at 930am or 10am...

carbikebus SG

Maybe LTA should look into those heavy loading svc instead of dumping DDs on svc that only packed by few trips during peak hours..Svc 8 need majority or even full DDs.

21 also,51 still got 5-6 SDs.

TIB 585L SG

I see svc 5 also quite packed but have around 10 SDs. 65 got 1 SD idk why.

BusAnalayzer SG

Maybe LTA should look into those heavy loading svc instead of dumping DDs on svc that only packed by few trips during peak hours..Svc 8 need majority or even full DDs.

21 also,51 still got 5-6 SDs.

5 needs more DDs... 51 has 8 SDs (but okay since loading has dropped)... 21 has 12 SDs still in its fleet (think it is too high!)... 8 is okay because of the high frequency operating between 05-07 mins during peak hours.

SBS3004X SG

I see svc 5 also quite packed but have around 10 SDs. 65 got 1 SD idk why.

65 got 1 SD? Just for fun I think. Maybe it is so that if the BCs ask for a particular bus model (e.g. Scania K230UB) for one day, they do not need to do capacity downgrade?

Sbs6750E SG

That 1 SD on 65 is fleet add….

BusAnalayzer SG

That 1 SD on 65 is fleet add….

no it is not. It was a DD->SD downgrade a year back.

carbikebus SG

no it is not. It was a DD->SD downgrade a year back.

But at least still okay rather than 960 which got 7-8 SDs

BusAnalayzer SG

But at least still okay rather than 960 which got 7-8 SDs

960 still got high loading? Recently haven't seen the buses packed. Which area of 960 do you see high loading?

TIB 585L SG

I know on Sundays Tekka to Sg Kadut side will be packed on rigid,DDs n bendies hence the extra PM duties for 960 plus crossover from 925 Saturday also have extra PM duties for 960. 67 also have theirs too

carbikebus SG

960 still got high loading? Recently haven't seen the buses packed. Which area of 960 do you see high loading?

You go and try yourself especially during PHs and weekends

BusAnalayzer SG

You go and try yourself especially during PHs and weekends

If it is PH/weekends, no problem right. Have so many services that don't need DDs... can just have weekend deployment on 960. Was asking weekday.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 70 from YCK Terminal at 17.45 hours B9TL

YCK Terminal -- 21

AMK Ave 9 -- 24 (0/3), 26 (-1/3)

AMK St 63/64 -- 31 (0/5), 36 (0/5)

YCK Road -- 55 (-2/21), 64 (0/9), 65 (-1/2), 61 (-6/2), 60 (-3/2), 60 (-2/2), 58 (-4/2) bef jalan kayu, 63 (-4/9), 68 (-6/11), 70 (0/2), 72 (-3/5), 68 (-7/3) bef amk ave 5, 66 (-9/7), 64 (-7/5), 67 (-2/3), 66 (-3/2), 65 (-3/2), 64 (-1/0), 64 (0/0), 61 (-5/2)

Serangoon Central -- 57 (-7/3), 41 (-38/22)

Upp Serangoon Rd -- 43 (0/2)

Upp Paya Lebar Rd -- 37 (-8/2), 36 (-3/2), 34 (-2/0), 34 (0/0), 37 (0/3)

Paya Lebar Rd -- 37 (-3/3), 41 (0/4), 43 (-1/3), 46 (-4/7), 50 (-2/6), 49 (-6/5), 50 (-2/3)

Paya Lebar MRT -- 53 (-26/29), 54 (-2/3) I alighted here.

* Direction opposite to peak. Loading consistenylu in 55-70 range from YCK Road to NEX with upper deck 80% full

* Lot of boarding at NEX but short distance. Upper deck only had 10-15 pax

* Along Paya Lebar road, upper deck had 25 pax, some alighted at Paya Lebar MRT, most towards Guillemard

* Quite # pax boarded at Paya Lebar MRT towards Guilemard road

* Peak loading = 72 pax.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 49 @ 17.23

Jurong East Interchange -- 15

Jurong East Central -- 17 (0/2)

Boon Lay Way -- 20 (0/3), 22 (-3/5)

Jurong Townhall Road -- 26 (0/4)

AYE -- 29 (-1/4), 31 (-3/5), 35 (-2/6)

Yung Ho Road -- 37 (-1/3) DD in opposite direction had only 8-10 pax on upp deck

Corporation Dr -- 36 (-3/2), 37 (-4/5)

Yuan Ching Rd -- 38 (-3/4), 34 (-10/6)

Tah Ching Rd -- 30 (-8/4)

Corporation Dr -- 35 (-2/7), 34 (-8/7)

Corporation Rd -- 34 (-2/2) DD in opposite direction had full upper deck (couldn't see lower deck)

Lakeside MRT -- 43 (-18/27)

Jurong West St 51 -- 50 (0/7), 49 (-4/3)

Jurong West Ave 1 -- 38 (-15/4)

Jurong West St 42 -- 32 (-9/3), 25 (-11/4), 19 (-10/4), 17 (-6/4)

Jurong West St 41 -- 20 (0/3), 24 (-1/5), 26 (0/2), 26 (-2/2)

Jurong West St 51 -- 25 (-6/5)

Lakeside MRT -- 74 (-14/63) bus was at stop for at least 3 min. BC waited for pax who ran and boarded. If he has not, bus would have left with 66 pax.

Corporation Rd -- 76 (0/2), 74 (-2/0)

Corporation Dr -- 66 (-10/2), 48 (-22/4)

Tah Ching Rd -- 39 (-11/2)

Yuang Ching Rd -- 32 (-10/3), 27 (-8/3)

Corporation Dr -- 27 (-3/3), 27 (-3/3)

Yuang Ho Rd -- 26 (-3/2)

Corporation Rd -- 26 (-7/7), 30 (0/4), 33 (0/3)

Jurong Townhall Rd -- 32 (-3/2)

Boon Lay Way -- 28 (-8/4), 24 (-4/0)

Jurong East Central -- 21 (-3/0)

* Average loading on sv 49 was around 30-40 pax. Loading b/w Jurong East and Corporation Estate is strictly SD loading in both directions.

* DD worthy loading is between Lakeside MRT and Corporation/Taman Jurong

* Is 334 still preferrable option for JW St 42 residents? JW St 41 had I think only 2 pax from Lakeside MRT, though on return leg did get few pax

* In previous observations, AM peak from JW Estate to Lakeside gets around 70 pax, but somehow none of the PM observations get heavy loading towards JW St 42. So preference in AM is go Lakeside, PM is take bus from Jurong East / Chinese Garden?

proudtobeme SG

i read so much on frankel so take 32 this morning from bdk at 745

bdk interchange (8), new upp changi rd (11, 13), changi rd (17, 20), frankel av (21, 22, 24, 25), east coast rd (26, 23, 24, 25) i get down bef still rd.

return journey 818 from aft still rd

east coast rd (15, 15, 17, 17), frankel av (18, 19, 20, 21), sims av east (20, 21), new upp changi rd (20, 17)

i saw most landed house. very nice car in area. look most peop have car here. bus in both dir got no more than 20-25 peop in frankel area. that too in 4 stop of frankel only 10-12 peop board, other go east coast rd - bdk.

now i kno why only 1 serv do frankel. i take tom 40 to see bdk-siglap.

SBS6465E SG

i read so much on frankel so take 32 this morning from bdk at 745

bdk interchange (8), new upp changi rd (11, 13), changi rd (17, 20), frankel av (21, 22, 24, 25), east coast rd (26, 23, 24, 25) i get down bef still rd.

return journey 818 from aft still rd

east coast rd (15, 15, 17, 17), frankel av (18, 19, 20, 21), sims av east (20, 21), new upp changi rd (20, 17)

now i kno why only 1 serv do frankel. i take tom 40 to see bdk-siglap.

40's loading will be similar. Main source will be between Bedok to Katong part of East Coast Rd. Siglap Rd loading will mostly come from Flamingo Valley. May have loading from Global Indian International Sch at that time as well.

For 32 you missed loading for St Stephen's Sch at La Salle St (along Frankel Av).

And yes, Frankel largely landed-property. I agree having only 1 service is justifiable. But we cannot have routes for the sake of having them. 32 is quite useless because it doesn't connect Kembangan MRT. Only good for going Katong and does not connect amenities on Marine Parade. Very few residents from Frankel will go Bedok. Siglap Rd at least has 401 on weekends.

If you have time, go try 42 from Opposite Kembangan Stn during evening peak hour. Most demand will be to Opera Estate. Very few going to Siglap Rd or Siglap Dr. Compare to morning which will have higher demand between Siglap Dr to Kembangan because 42 is only one-way to Kembangan MRT. You will also see a lot more pax going into Kembangan Estate because got a lot of condo plus HDB.

32 should just ply Telok Kurau. Katong-Bedok still intact where most demand is. Then new service from Kembangan to Marine Parade via Frankel. Frankel Av still got only 1 service but at least more useful than 32, plus sure got demand from Kembangan to Marine Parade.

proudtobeme SG

For 32 you missed loading for St Stephen's Sch at La Salle St (along Frankel Av).

frm frankel to bedok bus stop at kembangan mrt. short walk to mrt less than 5 min. yet bus i take only 2 peop alight at kembangan mrt. r u sure that peop there want go kembangan mrt? as i see most peop there hav fancy car. 42 also there and 42 do better kembangan north estate.

SBS6465E SG

Going to Kembangan, most people will take 42, as it is more direct and frequent. On the way back, 32 does not serve Kembangan, and 42 can take up to 13-15 mins plus waiting time even longer. 42 will go Opera first via Sims Av East, used to ply Frankel 2-ways before Siglap Dr become 1 way. Yes, can walk from Kembangan MRT to Frankel Av bus stop (Aft Frankel Terr). Must cross road 3 times, def not 5 mins. 32 freq also very poor, 16-18 mins evening peak D1.

The most logical connection to for fast connection on public transport to the city is via MRT. Whether someone has a car is irrelevant. Like that, Frankel no need bus. Bukit Timah also no need MRT station.

proudtobeme SG

ok i plan take both 40 42 for fun. will do in next few day and post my observes.

SBS6465E SG

ok i plan take both 40 42 for fun. will do in next few day and post my observes.

Don't expect high loading on 42 pls. It will be seated loading. Opera Estate will be like Serangoon Gardens, a lot of terrace houses.

You will notice much higher loading at Lengkong 3/4 due to HDBs & condo. That side will have standees.

Also note, 42 has very erratic frequency. It can range from 7-20 mins. I suggest you check the timetable for departures from Kembangan Stn. If less than 10 mins between buses, surely very poor loading. If 15-20 mins interval, you will definitely get better loading. Dont' worry, timetable is very accurate for such a short route like 42.

1845 & 1855 hrs departure from Kembangan Stn is quite packed.

For 40 you will see similar loading patterns to 32, maybe higher loading because it is more frequent.

Cheers

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