Better link coverage

last SG · 2004-02-07T16:12:57+00:00

No comments. They can take to Toa Payoh to get to other places.

BlessingSatan SG

Wahlao Shocked Laughing Rolling Eyes

off_service SG

The guide of how many hundred metres to 1 farestop is not correct. Somehow farestages are not using that guideline now.

th1988 SG

I have written this matter to Tibs.

When they reply, just let the matter solve. But this will take time to get a reply from them as they need to check.

SBS9818A SG

WHY on earth are you ALWAYS so concerned with speed limiters, or lack thereof? Buses can go at a max of 70km/h w/ speed limiter installed.

off_service SG

Rules are dead but humans are flexible.

SBS9818A SG

I agree. If we all were to operate by rules we'd be robots working to command.

th1988 SG

Can anyone know the speed limit. Is it 60 or 70km/hr?

Speed Limiters is a must on all buses, it is a crime to tamper or not installing it. It can led to jail term and fine.

SBS9818A SG

RULES ARE DEAD, HUMANS ARE FLEXIBLE.

off_service SG

Before anyone get jailed, I believe you will be charged for making so many calls to SBST CRC till the calls become some sort of nonsensical calls.

SBS9818A SG

For making repeated threats, and assault and battery.

delonchew SG

I will be waiting to see in the papers, reports about the top brass of SBST and TIBS going to jail. Smile

If speed limiters are a must on all buses, how come I see Singapore-Johore Express buses roaring past my poor TIBS O405, slowly rumbling along BKE? It's so sad to see the forlorn look on the faces of the poor TIBS drivers who are unable to catch up with the Singapore-Johore Express.

Let's put things this way. I have taken 966 a few times before. It takes approximately 20 minutes to reach the stop opposite CJC. Put the distance as 20km as you have mentioned.

20 mins = 1/3 of an hour.
Speed = Distance / Time = 20 / (1/3) = 60km/h

Therefore, the bus could not have exceeded the speed limit of 60km/h. It isn't that great a matter if bus drivers exceed the speed limits by a bit. If everyone is so concerned about speed limits, then let me assure you that there will be far more accidents on the roads now. Why? Because everybody will be trying to peer at their speedometers while driving.

service_238 SG

I utterly pity the CRC departments of both companies. They have to withstand all your bloody nonsense over little things like speed limiters.

BlessingSatan SG

You got connection with TP & LTA is it?Speed limiter?Well my uncle blast his private bus all the way at SLE in the morning hours @85km/h.To me,The speed limiter is just rubbish,Whatever vehicles category in S'pore had to go for the "speed restricter" test first before they being sold/used,Let alone buses.

SBS9818A SG

Don't forget the traffic lights at Woodlands area and bus stop times. It's likely the buses are going slightly faster than 60km/h.

Yusry SG

While we are on the topic of speed limiters, let me explain HOW THESE GADGETS WORK AND WHY YOU CAN STILL GOVE ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT EVEN WHEN THESE GADGETS ARE WORKING IN PERFECT CONDITION.

Sorry for the caps, I'm just super irritated by somebody.

As explained to The_Bus_Guide on our Hougang Central outing, speed limiters simply cut off fuel supply when it reaches a set limit, in this case 60km/h. There is no physical/mechanical limiter that, die die, disallows a vehicle to go above 60km/h.

When the fuel is cut off, there are still remaining fuel in the engine and the bus can continue accelerating. Eventually, the the bus will slow down to approximately 60km/h and the fuel supply will be returned. And if I'm not wrong, the 60km/h is measured by the RPM of the engine and not by the actual rotation of the driving axle.

In the case of automatic vehicles, the engine is not "physically" connected to the driving axle, but instead does through a torque converter, which is a chamber of oils linking the engine axle and the wheel axle. This means, the wheel axle (before gear box, connected to torque converter) can still be RPMing higher than the engine, so when engine "slows down to 60km/h", the bus still moves at "70km/h" or so - even higher if the bus is moving downhill.

This means, fuel can still be supplied to the engine even if the bus is moving higher than 60km/h (as long engine is running at below "60km/h"). This accounts for the reason why buses and other limited vehicles can still go higher than 60km/h even when the speed limiter is set at 60km/h. I would say this would result in a discrepancy of about 5 - 10km/h. So buses could be travelling at a max of 70km/h or so.

Hope this clears the topic on speed limiters. Please note that this information is from what I have gathered so far and not from a horses' mouth (eg. Siemens or other speed limiter equipment manufacters).

Others with more technical/engineering knowledge, please feel free to contribute. I'm just a computer science undergrad who happens to be interested in mechanical engineering.

Yusry SG

Sorry for the dup message.

delonchew SG

Hehe. My start point is the entrance into BKE from Woodlands Ave 3 and end point is bus stop opposite CJC. Smile

I agree with what Yusry has mentioned. Very insightful comment, indeed.

tranquilice SG

Are taxis here installed with speed limiters? I dunno if they are installed but in my opinion they are not, I have experienced taking taxis that travelled at more than 60km/h in the early hours of the morning.

Yusry SG

Taxis do not have speed limiters, but they have a chime that is activated at 90km/h, I think. QX-plate vehicles also do not have speed limiters, though some of them are legally-limited to 60km/h, but all of them (at least police vehicles) have a chime at 90km/h.

delonchew SG

Yes, you are correct. Taxis have a speed warning device which goes 'ting tong' whenever the driver exceeds 90km/h. Army vehicles are restricted to 50km/h and the army cars are restricted to 80km/h. They have speed warning devices which have counters. Once the device has sounded 10 times, the device will jump 1 counter and the driver can say Hello to Detention Barracks.

« Previous Page Next Page »