You make a claim and you ask me how to prove it? Hahahahaha!
This is by far the funniest thing I have heard.
BIC, honestly, I have met christians who are more humble than
you are. They make a claim about miracles but they admitthey cannot
prove it. They also tell me that it is by faith that they believe
that the miracles took place. And I accepted their reasoning. These
christians are nice and reasonable.
But you? You want to twist your argument, twist facts. You want
to talk as if you can prove the miracles when in fact you can't and
also push the responsibility to me. You were the one who made the
claim.
Come on, if you made a claim, YOU find the means to prove it. No
one goes around begging for the means to prove something they
claimed.
Scientists use the scientific method and they prove their claim.
If you cant use the scientific method, then find another method to
prove your claim! No one goes around BEGGING for the means to prove
their own claims!!
End of the day, like what Rooney said, the onus is ON YOU, the
claimant, to prove your claims, no matter what method you use, I
dont care. But if you claim it, you prove it.
Can you imagine when Isaac Newton proposed about gravity and
someone asks him to prove it and Isaac Newton says "GIVE ME THE
METHODOLOGY TO PROVE GRAVITY THEN I WILL SHOW YOU THAT GRAVITY IS
REAL!"
Seriously, you are ridiculous beyond hope
Tcmc,
1. Since when did I ask you to prove that miracles in the Bible
happened? I am only asking you to prove the claim that it is
empirically possible to prove that miracles happened. And if so,
provide the methodology. Until now you still FAIL to do so.
2. I see that humble Christians are those who agree with you.
What a self-serving definition of humility!
3. How am I twisting anything? You said that miracles can be
empirically proven. I asked you how. You cannot answer me and now
you are blaming me for your failure? Please don't try to
divert things here. You demand for empirical proof that miracles
happened. I am asking you to first prove the claim that there are
empirical methods for proving such things. Do you not know that the
scientific method is the empirical method? Looks like you don't
know anything at all! Tell me what other method is empirical
besides the scientific method. You tell me and I sure provide you
the proof you demand.
4. Yes, the one who makes the claim prove the claim. So since
you make the claim that empirical methods can prove that miracles
happened, I am asking you to prove that claim. Why can't you do
that? Tell me you are denying that empirical methods can prove
miracles and I will not push this point and embarass you
further.
5. Isaac Newton used the scientific method to prove gravity. I
have no quarrel with that at all. I will use the scientific method
to prove a scientific claim. But now we are talking HISTORY,
whether something happened before. So tell me again, what accepted
empirical methodology do you have in mind that can be used to prove
that miracles happened 2000 years ago? How come you still cannot
give me a simple answer to a simple question?
6. For the record I say it again. You show me how miracles can
be proven by empirical means and I will show you that the miracles
happened. Until now you FAILED to rise up to the challenge. I am
willing to shoulder the burden of proof. I am NOT asking you to
prove the miracles in the Bible so don't be so defensive and
scared. I am only asking you if you know of any empirical way to
prove that miracles happened. If you don't know, then how are
you going to assess anything?