Self Defense

last SG · 2009-03-08T01:23:26+00:00

If anyone is interested in SWORD martial arts, I'm training NihontoDo with Samurai Sports Singapore. It's a school of Kenjutsu, Japanese sword fencing.http:/...

Coach Jason SG

Short Ninja

Now I would like to quote meself 'If I punched you and you thought it was a kick,you better run but if you kicked me and I thought it was slap,you better run fast.

Haha! I like that!

Short Ninja SG

wow seem like a lot of debate on martial art here. Well for any martial art u do, Passion is the thing that will last. Once u choose it, maintain it and tried to explore it. Any senior / aka black belt to any martial is the beginning journey of learning. There is no fool proof to any martial art, it the person using it that see the different. For wat i think stamina is the more of impt thing as in sparring, if stamina run out, u couldnt even stand up properly.

In my opinion 3 main things that makes up a devastating fighter.

a)Your physique

b)your animal instinct

c) Your ability to learn everything from your masters but

unwillingness to fight clean.

color of the belt don't really matter cuz I am sure you all have heard the story of a karate master who started with a white belt and thought he knew everything as a black belt until he became a lau chiaow and it loses its color to a white belt again.....that was when he realised he was back to square one and had learned 'FUCKALL'

Herzog_Zwei SG

omg ur priceless zwei you misunderstood me. Please really WAHAHAHAHAH~ *gaffaws* omg omg... i cant stop laughing hahahaha!!!

No u did not state but u sure did praise them to sky nine. I did not say Krav could be like redbull who will give you wings. Yes Ki technics are indeed strong but like i was saying, at the end of the day humans needs something more practical. Krav maga is made up from researching many other martial arts including wushu. so you have to admit there will be ki technics inside. Ask master -.- he and i practiced Krav Maga for quite some time. Irregardless you should not be bias in stating Ki fighters are better then none ki fighters. Boxing is none ki. Simple pyhsical brute strength but it can take down a bull or a bison in an instant when trained properly. someone like mike tyson proved that you can deal a instant kill bowl without ki technics. Every martial art is balanced. Pros and cons alike.

Read it up and you will notice how many martial arts there arethat is very deadly and they are non-ki. Muay thai is Non-Ki also yet it is extremely devastating. The amount of blows they can receive it stunning. But its not ki its just plain trainning. Shaolin monks have a wide vast of martial arts experience. But sad to say, future can only advance not go back. Old stuff don't go new ones won't come. Shaolin monks or Krav artiste or not this world is reality.

Face one thing no matter how powerful a martial artiste you are humans will remain humans. You do not see a shaolin monk nor Krav artiste disarm a nuclear bomb have you? Face it our world has change. Urban self defence is the best option for anyone of us now. Not the perfect option but it is definately the best urban option you will have. As you say you won't know what the future lies. But at least always be sure that guns and knives do. A bullet can still kill if you do not have the proper infomation. And yes shaolin monks can't disarm a gun in split seconds like a Krav could but a Krav could not disarm a spear as fast as a shaolin monk can. Like i say Pros and cons.

I talked to you nicely replying with what you said despite you mocked me already at that point of time. So why not just reflect that what you have done only shows you have no respect for martial arts because your bias. You watch too much shows. Humans are humans. We all have a limit break the limit you break your body. Simple logic aye? Does one need to master Wushu just to take down a few thugs? how many millions of masters are there in this world could you tell me? No but i definately can tell you that there are many Thugs. So if your in the right mind. Should'nt Krav be more practical? Since you insulted it with amatuer fighters. Face it. One nuclear holocaust even your ki can't save you neither can krav.

Then what are the human limits? Qi disciplines allow humans to be at their maximum limits. Question is you don't know who your next enemy will be, a thug or a ki-using martial artist. Will you risk being caught wrong-footed and with no idea or technique to deal with a ki-using martial artist? I wouldn't master wushu as there is no qi technique in it due to it being watered down since the Qing dynasty. Muay Thai does have ki training as there are single touch killing techniques in its repetoire. A nuke is definitely out of any martial artists repetoire of skills but an assasination?
Speed and power should be able to deal with a gun wielding assasin with the exception of snipers. Krav maga will excel in such a situation. But against an assasin trained in dim mak or artemi striking, krav maga doesn't have the training

Herzog_Zwei SG

In my opinion 3 main things that makes up a devastating fighter.

a)Your physique

b)your animal instinct

c) Your ability to learn everything from your masters but

unwillingness to fight clean.

True in a way.

Kyutake SG

Zwei~~ Ninjutsu is dim mak. The one hit ko almost all has it. If your reference to ki is inner energy then Krav has it too. But inner energy is just the ability to gain as much energy from the ground and your surroundings. Making your body the fulcrum to the point of impact. Notice how wushu focuses on small hits ? like a small fist but with power? Wushu is sharp and quick which makes it deadly. Krav is more on disarm and kill fastest and quickest way. As i was saying each has their pros and cons. Stop arguing that wushu is best. Your post are implementing it all my dear friend. I understand your passion for wushu but like i was saying, even if you do not know who you opponents are, at the end of the day no matter what you learn its your experience in fighting and your split second reflexes that slams it all into your victory. As bruce lee said. A punch is a punch. A kick is sitll a kick. But both will hurt as long as im the first to connect my punch to your skin. My kick to your face and my throws on your ground. No martial art is absolute.

PS- Krav also did do pressure points. Serious no joke. Jujutsu and ninjutsu make up the majority for Krav besides russian sambo and Akido. So Krav has pretty much more Ki technics then you imagined =)

Herzog_Zwei SG

As I said before, I didn't study wushu. I understand your theory of pros and cons and I really find it hard to believe that Krav Maga has workable ki theories. Inversion of acupoints, reversals of blood flow, total control of blood pressure are derivable physical aspects of ki discipline. Yes, I have seen a slight increase in blood pressure in krav maga practitioners as the fight-flight response begin but not to the point that I can admit ki mastery. Speed of the body and experience in fighting is important but without ki aspects, one is at serious disadvantage.

So far, among the Krav maga practitioners I know, I have not seen any that can self-invert acupoints and control their own blood pressure with their ki. If you are in a fight with 6 or 7 pressure point striking opponents, those 2 skills are important.

KaYaBrEaD SG

talk no use lah.. i heard there this mix martial art in singapore every once 1 or 2 yrs...can go tried your limit hahah here the link from u tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t40i_V4l7KE

Coach Jason SG

Got this question in the mail last night, sounds like he's a reader of the forums and he has asked a question that is asked by many and I have answered the same way to all. So i'll just answer accordingly to what I have in our blog and others who have asked the same question. And I think I got to start collecting money for this question, seriously. Just my 2 cents worth of opinion here, hope it answers you KY Ong.

"I'm looking to train but what is the best martial arts? There seems to be a hype all around and each seems to be the best by what they are saying." Question posted by: KY Ong.

There are different opinions and views. People do different Arts for different reasons.

In short, Train for what end result you want. What are you training for?

The modern martial arts are neither bad or wrong, some arts are pure SPORTS with lots of rules, others are there to preserve TRADITIONS and DOCTRINES.

Most martial arts teach their students to defend against their own styles.

Example: Judo against Judo
TKD against TKD etc

Boxers are trained to BOX, not fight against street assailants or grapplers. etc You won't see for example, TKD teaching you how to defend against some mystical arts people made up in their mind or to keep up with the times, MMA?

Though there are many benefits from these arts, most won't really work for real self-defence.

And often the training leaves them very ill-prepared for a real street confrontation.

The answer is simple : You must train for what you WANT! Makes sense?
If you are looking to train and prepare for real street encounters, ask yourself these questions:

What are the elements and compositions of a true street or violent confrontations?
What would I encounter in a a true street or violent confrontations?
Whatever I might be training in, would it address these issues and not just a group of techniques that might falter?

Finally:

Would you go to a 100 meters sprint training to improve your StandChart Marathon? NO WAY!

But both teaches you to run right? Same as in the DT and SD world. If you wish to improve your chances of surviving or disengaging violent confrontations, you must prepare yourself for THAT eventuality.

Short Ninja SG

"I'm looking to train but what is the best martial arts? There seems to be a hype all around and each seems to be the best by what they are saying." Question posted by: KY Ong.

Finally:

I have to salute you here for giving the best advice in good writing pertaining to Martial Arts.

Coach Jason SG

Thanks! =)

We have to do our little bit to ensure our local DT and SD community is able to grow.

And oh ya... how do you guys do the "Originally posted by" thing?

Coach Jason SG

talk no use lah.. i heard there this mix martial art in singapore every once 1 or 2 yrs...can go tried your limit hahah here the link from u tube. KaYaBrEaD

Oh ya, this is a all styles sparring competition, it'l be the 7th year this year. You'l see a lot of different systems and styles sparring in this event.

It aint MMA though, don't suppose the local authorities will allow it.

HuiZi SG

No wonder some call you the Adam Khoo in self defense. Hee...

Uraniumfish SG

What about Jeet kune do, looks effective. What do you guys think?

http://jkdsingapore.com/

eastpaw SG

Hi, Jason, does IDACT welcome walk-in visitors? What you do sounds very interesting.

Pallova2 SG

Actually I have just organised somewhat of a mixed martial art tournament recently which I called Martial Art Tanding Tournament.

The word Tanding signifies that it follows loosely the silat sparring tournament. This tournament was open to walks of life be it one with martial art background or one without. The result was a great tournament that brought out the best of each Martial Art or street fight. Managed to attract practitioner of Silat, Muay Thai, Capoera and street fighter (no martial art background)

You can view it via this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E12pU--ILE&feature=channel_page

There are 3 other parts to this tournament in youtube...Go watch it ... Enjoy...

And 1 more thing I would like to add is, after a very hard fight, all the contenders became great friends... This is what fundamentally we want to achieve... Respect among fellow martial artist...

Coach Jason SG

Bruce lee created JKD as a way for martial artists to learn the most effective way for combat and self defense. Never encountered JKD training in SG before so cant comment much.

However there are a few points to take note:

Bruce Lee had a very important principle upon which the whole JKD system was built upon, Simple, Direct and Non classicial (this is also the one true where we have built our training system around also).

Over the years, many around the world have evolved the original JKD system into something to fit their needs for training, scenarios, environments etc. Sadly, some have mutated it in a bad way. You will have to check out their training sessions, talk with their Coaches to find out more about how and why they train. (at this point, like said before; it depends on what you are training for, real confrontations, competitions, keeping fit or spiritual growth etc.)

Next, bruce lee was way advanced during his time; meaning how people fought that time definitely aint how people fight now. So how they train ppl to fight or engage should have evolved and improved and not stayed at that time (though the training philosophies and principles should be there). This is one of what Bruce Lee thought about when he created the Taiji symbol with arrows and the chinese words : having no way as way, and no limits as limits.

Also, it has to emphasize on various elements around fighting like the different ranges, all dimensional training (emotional, pshycological and skills). Lastly, you must be able to implement or execute what you have learnt. This is a principle I base all my trainings upon “Teach the students not what I can do, but rather what they can do”. Whats the point of monkeying and copying a instructors moves if you know you cant do it and most likely it will fail you?

KaYaBrEaD SG

Hi Pallova2

For the martial art Tanding Tournament wat are the rules? no punch to faces or kick groin or how about high kick to face?? Is not a full conatct i believe.

eastpaw SG

Kaya, it’s full contact, but only the torso (front, side, back) is a valid target. Sweeps are allowed but power kicks to the legs are not.

Pallova2 SG

Kaya, it’s full contact, but only the torso (front, side, back) is a valid target. Sweeps are allowed but power kicks to the legs are not.

Thank you eastpaw for helping to explain some of the concept here...

However about the power kicks to legs... it is not totally disallowed... It is allowed to a certain extent. Example is when the power kicks to the legs with the intention to make the opponent fall is definitely allowed. But if the kicks are meant to weaken the opponent, this is not allowed because the game is mostly won through points and not K.O.s or submissions... There are still T.K.O.s example
1. When the opponent could not take the impact of the hits from the contender even though it hits the legal areas.

2. When the opponent could not contain the contender in the bout.

The power kicks to the leg that is not allowed is the one that is directly hitting the knees, and thighs with the intention to weaken and injure the opponent in order to capitalize on the opponent state. If by any chance the kick hits the illegal areas and the opponent cannot continue momentarily, the bout will go to the opponent instead.

However after saying that, the kicks to the thighs are still allowed if it happens in the middle or at the beginning of an attack because now it function as a distraction to the opponent in order for the contender to gain points through hits into the legal areas... Hence when the kicks to thigh area happen as a lone kick and at the end of the attack, the contender will be caution and eventually points will be taken away.

But Kaya please come and immerse yourself in the seminar on the 15th Nov. to get a first hand experience. Eastpaw is able to relate to you because he was there and had a go at it...

We are still at the formation state and we welcome all feedbacks in order to make the game more appealing to all. All suggestions are valid as long as it adhere to the objective...minimum risk, maximum impact and a whole lot of fun...

Rooney9 SG

Taiji Tuishou or push hands is very good. you should learn tuishou. kreta ayer CC offfering tuishou there.

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