On Halal Food

last SG · 2006-12-19T14:34:31+00:00

(continued) Rule Applications & Conclusion Note that while the rules do seem pretty restrictive, they are by no means totally rigid. Under difficult ci...

hisoka SG

hmmz cannot eat amphibians arh?

what about carnivores that have eaten harem food?

SBS9828X SG

actually there is... maybe for inspection

hisoka SG

means must pay lor Laughing

its the principle of it mah Twisted Evil

nothing muslims personally, although i do prefer to eat at non-halai places due to variety Embarassed

mhcampboy SG

hmmm... ask u sumtin... muslim rituals are just through the mouth. no action is needed. except slaughtering the neck. do u think tat incurs high cost?

and if u talking abt machines... well.. even non halalled animals need to be cut up and its feathers or hairs removed right...?

so u implying... just becos there is a ritual involve... it incurs high cost?

remember... only prayers are said... nuhtin else... and animals need to be cut up also to be reached to consumer... so u rather have whole chicken with feathers arrive at ur market?

also... halal cert needs to be borne by the person applying for it...

and gov body... well.. to be fair... all gov bodies receive their annual allowance.

hisoka SG

erm jsut get rid of the high will you?

i think theres prob a higher cost. or are you saying the person doing the prayer is going to do it for free completely? you go consult a lawyer to talk abotu stuff, only consult meanign i guess he only use his mouth need to pay? same case here right? you employ some one to say the prayer. even if no direct extra costs because you have an employee that can do that; but that means you need to hire some one with additional qualifications, don't tell me that one won't drive the salary up at least a bit?

i don't think they do other processing than the prayers i guess. unless its storage/transportation issues. but that would really be wild guesses

fudgester SG

Hisoka:

As I've mentioned before, a quick check of supermarket ads in the newspapers does not reveal any differences between halal and non-halal slaughtered meat. So from inference, I can see that either there's no cost difference between the two types of slaughter, or it's minimal enough for the slaughterhouse and the retailers to absorb.

Besides, most if not all halal meat found on the market are slaughtered at certified Islamic slaughterhouses which are mainly run by Muslims anyway. There are no special requirements to be able to slaughter an animal in the halal manner, except that the person has to be Muslim, that's all. I could slaughter an animal myself if someone were to give me a sharp knife and a short lesson on how to properly slit the jugular vein.

I seriously doubt that this would lead to an increase in costs. Except, as I mentioned earlier, admin costs of inspection and paperwork.. which is pretty routine stuff, actually. And I as said earlier, it seems to be a small portion of overall costs... at least small enough to be easily absorbed.

I hope this helps to clarify things.

[email protected] SG

Muslims so troublesome, if all just eat vegetables, then the problem very easy solved.

dinky1409 SG

With people like you that's why there can never be peace in the world.. Rolling Eyes

mathirrahim SG

This is what i think.

Even Singapore have rules and regulations.

Are they troublesome for you 'NUS Human'.

monoslayer SG

Originally posted by fudgester:

Alcohol

No go here. Anything which can intoxicate the mind is prohibited, and that includes alcohol and illicit drugs. As the following verse goes:

'O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.'
- Surah Al-Ma'ida (The Table) 5:90

Of course, this does complicate things somewhat, considering that are several substances and food essences which do contain alcohol. It's not just about abstaining from drinking alcohol - it's also about abstaining from consuming it in any way. That's part of the reason why I stay away from food stalls which proudly label 'no pork, no lard' but without a valid halal certificate from MUIS. For all I know they could be using alcohol in the marinate for the meat (which was what I discovered with a certain restaurant in town several years ago). In addition, absence of pork and its byproducts still doesn't account for the requirement that all meat must be slaughtered the Islamic way.
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tats it! i gonna scold all the melayu who i c drinking in MOS! Mad Mad

felirox SG

I think u shud also scold them for entering MOS. Razz

fudgester SG

I would prefer educating and reminding them of Islam's stance on alcohol.

hisoka SG

b4 yo do sutff like educating or scolding them, please check if they are muslims first Laughing

mathirrahim SG

i think it is difficult to educate, difficult for many reasons.
but it can be done.

Once i saw a guy wearing singlet for friday prayer.

it is allowed?

Hellraiza SG

Cheers to TS, very informative thread

OneDoubleManTayar SG

what is the aurat for the men?? from above the navel to below the knees, yes? as long as a person has that part covered with loose clothing then it's ok. what if a person wants to wear the ihram for prayers?? same thing right?

fudgester SG

Technically speaking, it would be all right so long as the aurat is covered.

At the same time, though, it would be frowned upon to wear a singlet if you have more appropriate clothes to wear. If you can dress up for going out, surely you can at least wear a proper shirt for prayers.

mathirrahim SG

i still think it's improper to wear singlet for prayer in a mosque.

A mosque is the god's house. Respect is required. Properly attired is advice.

x)

dinky1409 SG

what about taking ablution? aurat must also be covered? is it ok to take ablution naked? (cos after shower then want to pray take ablution following the shower)

fudgester SG

Uh guys... I suggest that if there are other topics to discuss which are not related to halal food, then you might want to start a new thread.

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